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#62 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 20 June 2010 - 10:13pm on Freeski Club UK
Culd not resist getting back in this hornet's nest.
Just because Sidge keeps answering questions about topics he doesn't have a clue about, like answeing a Mac question. Guess he will never be able to affoard a Mac in his whole life so keeps winging about it.

About the iPad, I think is a bloody good idea, sort of captures the public imagination because it is the first computer for normal people instead of geeks. So if you are a bearded geek who buys a PC in the 199 shop and expends rest of the life trying to shoe horn it to try to do something useful will never get the iPad. I been there and saw the light eventually but I still have to put up of Geeking as I am a Video Firmware Linux developer in my day job. I won't go in details to explain why a Mac is better for video now, that is part of may day job Sad

So, depends what u want. If u want to get online and run some apps and games on a secondary device get the iPad. If you want a descent media server to put under the telly or a cheaper mac to put under a descent monitor get the Mac-Mini.

Ah, I have the 1st gen Mac-Mini, got a 3rd party IR receiver (it was the one before built in remote) and works very nicely on my telly and also use it as test web server for my web development at home. I haven't got an iPad yet, I promissed myself to get the 2nd gen and also wait until my 6 year old PowerBook dies.
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#63 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 20 June 2010 - 10:36pm on Freeski Club UK
Seriously Harry the ipad is the first computer for normal people in what way may i ask

i do love the mac mini styling but i wouldnt buy one because there over priced but then thats because i know what im doing.
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#64 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 20 June 2010 - 11:55pm on Freeski Club UK
HarryCambs wrote:
So if you are a bearded geek who buys a PC in the 199 shop and expends rest of the life trying to shoe horn it to try to do something useful will never get the iPad.
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#65 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 21 June 2010 - 12:56am on Freeski Club UK
meh i suppose its not a pc and its not trying to be but if you look at it purley on functionality and cost it doesnt stand up. Most people will buy a laptop
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#66 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 21 June 2010 - 8:20am on Freeski Club UK
gosh. starting this thread has caused a bit of a furore...! Suprised right. please play nicely boys. as i said earlier, the updated/upgraded mac mini is over-priced for what it's offering, so i'll not be getting a mac mini. i've been looking at alternatives and you'll all rofl or Rolling Eyes when i reveal what i've been up to.

hubby already has an ipad, so i know what it's like to use (more importantly, so does he!) and it's what helped me convince him to look at mac - he was VERY anti-mac before. but...

ipad is a gadget. it's not a full-blown laptop. we're not using it as a laptop, and don't intend to, as we have a laptop for that purpose. we're using it for the gadget it is - easy to use on a daily commute as a web browser/mail reader/book reader (yes, a very expensive book reader)/music player/etc. we can use it on the sofa whilst watching telly to look up stuff we want to know more about. geeky? yes, but this time it's "sexy mac" geeky Laughing .

anyway, if we wanted to use it as more of a laptop, we could pay whatever the going rate is for an "ms office" type app. but when you have a few computers in the household that already have paid up versions of the full software, why the bloody hell would we?

the ipad has built-in readers that allow you to edit docs and email them (i think, i've not had reason to use this functionality yet). i don't know how you save them onto the ipad. again this is not important to us as we don't use it for that reason.

does this clarify anything for those wondering what the ipad is, or what it can be used for?

a small point - you need to be able to connect to a computer (mac or pc) to sync the ipad for your music/movies/photos,so your base pc would need to have decent storage if you're planning on syncing e.g. 16gb of data. you also need an itunes account.
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#67 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 21 June 2010 - 7:58pm on Freeski Club UK
Yes, it is not a good place to ask a Mac related question, even if there is a high percentage of mac users here ( guess goes with the lifestyle). Always get some PC fanboys (sidge) sticking their noses where they haven't been asked. (Gets to a point I just like winding them up.)
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#68 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 21 June 2010 - 8:52pm on Freeski Club UK
Harry, stop being a nonce -- It's called DISCUSSION -- Go look it up


I'm not a 'PC 'Fanboy', i like my iPhone, and have said in various discussions the laptops that Apple do are pretty nice, I just don't think that their mac mini/mac pro line are very good for the average consumer.

So don't get all twattish with me just because my opinion differs from yours, thanks.
Edited by Sidget on 21 Jun 2010 - 9:19pm
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#69 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 21 June 2010 - 9:04pm on Freeski Club UK
siiiiidge! i asked you guys to play nicely... Sad
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#70 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 21 June 2010 - 9:43pm on Freeski Club UK
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#71 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 22 June 2010 - 9:23am on Freeski Club UK
Flows are gay
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#72 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 22 June 2010 - 9:50am on Freeski Club UK
Finally someone is talking sense.
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#73 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 22 June 2010 - 10:08am on Freeski Club UK
You're all wrong anyway, this is the machine you need in your life
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#74 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 22 June 2010 - 10:42am on Freeski Club UK
As Bill Gates allegedly said in 1981 - '640kb ought to be enough for anybody'

I'm dusting off my Amiga A500 (ok 512kb but close enough) as we speak, lets see how it handles You tube Smile
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#75 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 22 June 2010 - 12:23pm on Freeski Club UK
Good grief - Amiga's take me back!

Sidget_Ex wrote:
I'm not a 'PC 'Fanboy'... So don't get all twattish with me just because my opinion differs from yours, thanks.

Sidge, if there was a dictionary entry for 'PC fanboi' I swear it'd have a picture of you next to the description. Thumbs Up
Edited by BartSimpsonhead on 22 Jun 2010 - 12:27pm
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#76 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 22 June 2010 - 12:27pm on Freeski Club UK
I see the Ipad as and pricey alternative to a web browser/ webbook type thing... cool as feck though.... whch you can pick up for about £250...
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#77 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 22 June 2010 - 5:16pm on Freeski Club UK
I suggest we resolve this with a monkey knife fight

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#78 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 22 June 2010 - 8:52pm on Freeski Club UK
I remember going into town with my brother to by a 1K ram upgrade for our ZX81. It was about the size of a box of fags.

Anyway, not had a go with the iPad yet but just ordered a few in work to play with. I think it definitely fills that 'browsing on the sofa and checking a few e-mails' role exceptionally well, and I think it would be perfect for sherlock if that's the sort of thing she's after. Overpriced for what it is, absolutely, but then so are loads of things and I still buy them.
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#79 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 22 June 2010 - 9:23pm on Freeski Club UK
Ah, I had a A 500 as well, I so miss Deluxe Paint! Sad Gosh, that was 20 years ago! Convinced my dad to get it from the local computer shop for £400 with Deluxe Paint and Batman and the wire it to the house telly Smile

The iPad reminds me of my 10 year old Psion Netbook in terms of user experience, a machine that just works, responsive as hell and no management required and you forget its is a "computer". ( Suppose I should dust off my netbook out as it is a great machine for typing text and taking notes, considering I expent £700 on it back then! )
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#80 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 23 June 2010 - 9:32am on Freeski Club UK
what was the final decision sherlock?? or have the geeks scared you away??
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#81 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 23 June 2010 - 10:17am on Freeski Club UK
oh a decision was made...
sherlock235 wrote:
...i've been looking at alternatives and you'll all rofl or Rolling Eyes when i reveal what i've been up to...

Embarrassed i'm writing this from a spanking new windows 7 dell. the manufacturer and os were the only compromises i had to make with this machine.

call me cynical, but i'm wary until something goes wrong and dell have to sort it out. then my hate of dell will be vindicated, or i'll continue to look like the fool i am. kit kat it will all be ok.

it's got so many whistles and bells, i'm still trying to find them all (joke). i'm willing to give windows another go cos as my husband pointed out - i've never actually had a decent windows machine. if i did, maybe i wouldn't hate windows so much.

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#82 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 23 June 2010 - 10:26am on Freeski Club UK
hmm i also just got windows 7 on laptop it seems to be amazing other than i dont know where everything is now
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#83 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 23 June 2010 - 12:26pm on Freeski Club UK
sherlock235 wrote:

call me cynical, but i'm wary until something goes wrong and dell have to sort it out. then my hate of dell will be vindicated, or i'll continue to look like the fool i am. kit kat it will all be ok.


We have a number Dell laptops in work on 3yr NBD, and the handful of times we've had to use it they've come next day as promised and fixed the issue within about half and hour. We've had a screen go, usb ports go and a dodgy key here and there (which actually they just send out a replacement keyboard for and one of the lads put it in).

I remember using them years ago for server support and they were sh1te, but I think they've picked up their game a bit these days.
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#84 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 23 June 2010 - 4:38pm on Freeski Club UK
I tend to go for HP over Dell. Made a friend of mine get an HP laptop from staples of all places last week and was a rather good value. For £400 was a dual core 4GB laptop with DVD rewriter and Windows 7 plus a few other things thrown in.
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#85 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 23 June 2010 - 7:45pm on Freeski Club UK
well so far so good. the reason we went for the dell over the hp (virtually the same machine) is that dell is rated higher in a which survey, and the graphics card on the dell is better. apple came out top in the which report, but didn't have the machine spec i wanted.
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#86 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 23 June 2010 - 8:39pm on Freeski Club UK
+1 for dell ...i kn ow a man who nicely gave me a discount code.....and all i gave him was 3 extra laps in an AUDI R8 , we now have 4 dell laptops and a mini one now
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#87 Reply:  mac mini
Posted 24 June 2010 - 9:44pm on Freeski Club UK
HP support is excellent. We used to always spec IBM hardware for our servers but with a recent virtualisation project we've gone with HP.
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