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#1 Topic:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 5 October 2011 - 7:30pm on Freeski Club UK
Okay, some of you may remember, some of you may not, but in the "recent forum posts" list on the right of most pages, SCUK used to surface topics from the SCUK Inn when someone posted in them.

Mr Dunx one day decided to stop the SCUK Inn posts being seen in this list as it was stopping genuine topics from being surfaced, there were too many posts (which were strange ramblings like the singles thread etc).

I feel like it's now time to do the same with the "For Sale" topics, I have nothing against people trying to sell gear on the site, but it feels like the "recent posts" list is being choked by topics offering goods for sale rather than advice or genuine questions about the sport.

Thoughts, or has this topic already been hidden from the homepage by lots of things for sale?
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#2 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 5 October 2011 - 7:44pm on Freeski Club UK
haha it's difficult one pocket.

the FS stuff tends to be seasonal. it's just unfortunate that it'll happen at this time of the year when new browsers of the forum may be looking for advice, etc.

i don't know what the answer is. <-doesn't help you at all, does it? Laughing
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#3 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 5 October 2011 - 7:49pm on Freeski Club UK
It is indeed a tough proposition and not one which should be judged lightly. You are right, there will be a certain seasonal trend to this, but if that coincides with when people are looking for advice, you should surely put newcomers seeking help and advice first.

After all, is that not the core purpose of the site?
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#4 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 5 October 2011 - 8:10pm on Freeski Club UK
Could the answer lie in a compromise?

Stop FS topics coming up on the community list as it does at present, but make a separate smaller list underneath that is purely dedicated to FS and Wanted topics.

That way, we don't get the important snowboarding discussion bit being polluted with FS topics but at the same time people can still try and sell their stuff and still get onto 'The Front Page' so to speak.
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#5 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 5 October 2011 - 8:19pm on Freeski Club UK
But newbeees come on looking for cheap gear too , and sometimes its hard for them to navigate around a new forum , so may miss out on a bargain ... catch 22
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#6 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 5 October 2011 - 9:00pm on Freeski Club UK
You could say the same about topics on 'Which Board' 'What Bindings' or 'Bansko' Laughing Laughing Laughing
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#7 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 5 October 2011 - 9:03pm on Freeski Club UK
I guess the real answer is going to be SCUK2.0, but personally I'd rather not see the FS's.

I'm very lazy and only bother to look at the Recent Posts section. If there is nothing interesting on there then I close the site. And at the moment the interesting stuff is being rapidly bumped off by the FS's.
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#8 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 5 October 2011 - 9:04pm on Freeski Club UK
you could, but which this, or what that type threads are asking for advice, exactly what the forum is for, Bansko on the other hand should have an FS in front of it ;)

WFM, if SCUK took a commission from all sales, I'd agree, but for the most part I think newbies come here as SCUK is advertised as a portal for advice on snowboarding, not as a place to come pick up cheap gear.
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#9 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 5 October 2011 - 9:13pm on Freeski Club UK
I do like the idea of the 'FS' being in a separate section, it could replace the 'Users Online' which I see as pointless Yes
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#10 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 5 October 2011 - 9:33pm on Freeski Club UK
tbh I never even realised the 'Recent Forum Posts' section was there till I saw this thread. I think I probably just assumed it was more advertising and ignored it like I do all ads on websites - now I know it's there I may use it more Smile

I think a separate FS list could be good as then it'll solve the problem and still give people good exposure for the stuff they're trying to shift.
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#11 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 2:25am on Freeski Club UK
and take them out of the rss feed too if poss. Wink
but it is a useful service so FS deserves a place of its own
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#12 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 6:29am on Freeski Club UK
I don't think that it would necessarily benefit many people taking the FS stuff out of that list. I don't think many noobs to the forum look at that list. I know that I very rarely do (though obviously I'm not a noob).

As I recall (and this is through recanted stories cos I wasn't around when it happened|) but the SCUK Inn stories were removed from the list because there were some fairly choice threads which were making SCUK look bad with it plastered on each page - was there an issue with search engines finding them? I dunno, but I'm fairly sure that it wasn't just the fact that Inn threads were burying other ones.

If I was a noob to this forum, I would mostly likely come to snowboardclub.co.uk, click on the forum button which will give me the list of forums available, then have a look from there - I don't think the recent threads list makes a difference. In fact if the list was replaced with another advert that brought more money in for SCUK maybe that would be of more use.
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#13 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 6:35am on Freeski Club UK
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You could say the same about topics on 'Which Board' 'What Bindings' or 'Bansko' Laughing Laughing Laughing


you beat me to posting this hahaha Razz
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#14 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 6:54am on Freeski Club UK
I think it needs it's own section.... good idea on replacing the users online, I can't see what purpose the users online serves really

The FS posts do clog up the recent post feeds a bit but I think having a feed of FS stuff is important, I check it sometimes, it's good to see some interesting stuff that comes up occasionally without having to enter the forum menu..... and I use it to sell stuff too, as lots of us do, it's certainly helped me shift stuff.
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#15 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 8:20am on Freeski Club UK
I've bought things recently because I've been tempted in seeing listings in the 'recent forum posts' box.

Na, leave it as it is, or maybe double it to the last 20 posts instead of 10. I use it a lot as a guide to see if there's much happening.
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#16 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 8:39am on Freeski Club UK
personally, i dont think that its needed in the recent forum posts as if your looking for gear its pretty obvious where to go to find it.

Plus i, as im sure most other people do, take advantage of the "Posts since last visit" link.
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#17 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 8:46am on Freeski Club UK
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....... as if your looking for gear its pretty obvious where to go to find it.
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That was my point, I've NOT been looking for gear and still been tempted by FS posts in the 'Recent posts' box!
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#18 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 9:03am on Freeski Club UK
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Na, leave it as it is, or maybe double it to the last 20 posts instead of 10. I use it a lot as a guide to see if there's much happening.

I like that idea. Probably dead easy to implement and should keep everyone happy.
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#19 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 9:19am on Freeski Club UK
kerb wrote:


I'm very lazy and only bother to look at the Recent Posts section. If there is nothing interesting on there then I close the site. And at the moment the interesting stuff is being rapidly bumped off by the FS's.


Ditto...can them off, it looks sometimes more like ebay than a snowboard forum.

anyone that cant find the for sale section under there own steam when they want it shouldnt really be allowed a snowboard anyway....
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#20 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 9:25am on Freeski Club UK
Personally I think there should be relevant sections.

Now that I've got most of my gear that I'm happy with going away time and again, the sales section doesn't interest me that much bar a quick snoop every so often, but at first it was one of the main reasons I came here (along with advice). So the sales section definitely drives traffic which can only be good for SCUK.

The box itself has a lot of useless info on it anyway for me, do people really want to see the post count or the latest poster?

Perhaps, if possible, make sections to be included a user option on SCUK2 (if there's a similar section)
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#21 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 9:27am on Freeski Club UK
I like the idea of doubling the size, that way the FS wont be bumping off other posts + it means we can see alot more recent posts. Or maybe just make a dedicated page that shows all recent posts since your last visit like alot of forums have. I dont know if your able to do that on this forum layout, but also this way on other forums, you can select what type of feeds you want to show up in this section.

I like the FS posts showing up there, i never go in the for sale section, but if it pops up in the recent post sections ill always have a look and have brought a fair amount that way...
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#22 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 9:44am on Freeski Club UK
The trouble is everybody uses the site differently. I use the recent post section to see what's going on and the only forum I visit specifically is the SCUK/Website to see if there's any questions in there.

I use the Users Online to give me an idea of how busy the site is and I think it lends some credibility to the site for new users to see there 30-40 people logged on at any one time.

I feel the last poster is useful so you can check out posts that seem to have attracted the attention of mates/people-you-want-to-keep-an-eye-on and the quantity is useful to see how active a post is. I could hide all that and place it just on a mouse-over, but that's not obvious and means I have to wave my mouse around to get the info I want.

I've never used posts since last visit and very rarely go to the forum homepage.

A FS section would take up real estate on the page, which we don't want to do, as would increasing the size of the listing.

Hmmm... what to do?

The fabled SCUK2 will have a hub for all users and display to them posts about things they've said they're interested in, so better for finding things you might be interested in that you might otherwise miss. The trouble is that for everything else, there's no real way we can decide whether you'd be interested, so we try to show a selection to encourage you in a little further.

I think for the moment, I'll reduce the size of the Users Online scrolling box and increase the number of recent posts shown. Give me a few minutes...
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#23 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 9:47am on Freeski Club UK
So is there a post since last visit section already or did i just misunderstand what you said?

Glad your making the section bigger.
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#24 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 9:52am on Freeski Club UK
Hmmm not keen on having the section rolling.. Maybe a scroll bar like the new facebook has, if you want to keep the same space.

EDIT: Ignore that, its much better now.
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Posted 6 October 2011 - 9:53am on Freeski Club UK
tomfc wrote:
So is there a post since last visit section already or did i just misunderstand what you said?

Glad your making the section bigger.

Apparently... although I'd have to go and find it...

All done. How's that?
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#26 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 9:54am on Freeski Club UK
tomfc wrote:
Hmmm not keen on having the section rolling.. Maybe a scroll bar like the new facebook has, if you want to keep the same space.

EDIT: Ignore that, its much better now.

No, I didn't like the scrolling either!

I also shuffled the names of the users online, so Ace isn't always at the top!
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#27 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 10:00am on Freeski Club UK
dunx wrote:
tomfc wrote:
Hmmm not keen on having the section rolling.. Maybe a scroll bar like the new facebook has, if you want to keep the same space.

EDIT: Ignore that, its much better now.

No, I didn't like the scrolling either!

I also shuffled the names of the users online, so Ace isn't always at the top!


You mean that was alphabetical? I thought it was a list of coolness Sad

We do use it differently cos basically I access the forum via bookmarks that go straight through to the posts since last visit link!
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#28 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 10:17am on Freeski Club UK
I only really use the recent posts section and then open the Inn and sometimes UK to check people haven't posted random crap where it shouldn't be posted. Increasing the size of that sidebar works for me Smile
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Posted 6 October 2011 - 10:25am on Freeski Club UK
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thats my bookmark. its generally the only thing i look at unless an item of news catches my eye.

as Dunx said everyone uses the site in a different way
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#30 Reply:  For Sale Topics... Should we move them?
Posted 6 October 2011 - 10:27am on Freeski Club UK
dunx wrote:

All done. How's that?


Spot on Smile
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Posted 6 October 2011 - 9:14pm on Freeski Club UK
Dunx, the system works! Nice compromise I think.
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