Not trying to cause offence Dunx, but is it every going to materialise? I've just done a search and there's a post by you from July 2008 saying that it's development is under way.
I love SCUK and whilst I'm still a relative newbie to it, I'm in my second year of membership now, I honestly believe that the current site doesn't sell SCUK to the best of it's ability or promote it as the largest snowboard club in the UK and that an updated site with more functionality and usability that people are used to from other sites would bring in more members.
I'm not trying to lecture or teach you to suck eggs, but 32 months is a hell of a long time to develop a new website and whilst the club does not solely revolve around the site it is it's most customer facing attribute and a huge part of the SCUK community. A community that I'd like to see become even bigger than it is now.
Anyway, I've said my piece and like I said I'm not trying to stir up sh1t or annoy anyone I'm just voicing my opinion and concerns as a club member and get some up to date information.
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And I reckon that this is the last thing on Dunx's mind while he's shredding the GNAR in Japow :-)
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Would be cool to hear an update on progress etc, perhaps a post about what will definitely/is definitely included in the site so far. I know there are a lot of threads on features and content but most of these are well over a year old now and others not far off a year themselves.
Would be cool to hear an update on progress etc, perhaps a post about what will definitely/is definitely included in the site so far. I know there are a lot of threads on features and content but most of these are well over a year old now and others not far off a year themselves.
Prefer vBulletin, just seems more polished from a users point.
If the new site comes along then great, if it doenst then thats up to him and no one else.
Sums it up for me!
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If the new site comes along then great, if it doenst then thats up to him and no one else.
I have no clue about Dunx's life/employment/anything or how SCUK runs tbh, all I know is that it's a limited company according to the footer and I pay subs each year lol. This isn't about Dunx though, I've only asked him directly as he is the only one I know of working on SCUK2 and he posts frequently, it's about the future of the forward facing website and therefore the club.
If it were a personal site and not a club with paying members I could agree with your opinion, but it is a club and members pay for the services provided, which includes running of the club and the upkeep; this includes the website/forum. I'm also pretty sure that there are plenty of geeks, myself included, in the club that would be happy to contribute their time and knowledge to helping with things (as the moderators do) where required.
I've made no bones about suggesting vBulletin be adopted for the new site. As a forum it's pretty much the web standard for large community sites and as a CMS it's gaining popularity and adoption rapidly. Downside is that it carries a yearly licensing cost but I doubt SCUK would notice £175 a year. But the pros massively outweigh the cons, it could be up and running in under an hour in a basic form, import all the current forum database so no data loss, has hundreds of plugins to allow it to be modified to suit the clubs/sites need and it's secure and regularly updated so shouldn't really need adhoc custom coding to it's core files. But this is the administrators/directors (however choices about SCUK are made) decision.
For the majority of members, all they are interested in is the discounts rather than posting on the forum. So £15 a year goes towards administering these discounts and most people are happy with that, it's just the few that post regularly on the forum who are massively bothered.
What more would people actually want from a 'better' forum?
Personally I can't really think of anything other than maybe forums within the forum - like a photography one, as has been mentioned elsewhere. It would be nice but then you could argue that you should just find a photography forum.
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I guess its a bit frustrating that we can't get some small improvements/fixes to the forum because development of the site is pretty much frozen while we wait for v2.
Personally I can wait forever for SCUK2, and even longer if we could get:
1. Better search - just add a little box which would do a google site search?
2. Stop you getting logged out when accessing from phone as well as PC.
3. Auto scaling of uploaded images. I know there are instructions, but obviously people have trouble finding software or whatever.
4. erm, that's about it.
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I seriously doubt the whole £15 goes on administrating discounts. Shops/holiday firms will want to give discounts as it's an easy customer base. The main cost of any membership pack will be the admin of putting the packs together and sending them out. As a result I'm sure there are enough funds for website improvements if as mentioned one of the Directors is already busy in their full time job and unable to implement the changes.
I have no idea about vbulletin and proboards, etc. I just read the forums and see a box in which to type and add smileys etc, when I feel like posting, so works fine for me.
We might just skip SCUK2 and go straight to SCUK2011 to confuse people.
I seriously doubt the whole £15 goes on administrating discounts. Shops/holiday firms will want to give discounts as it's an easy customer base. The main cost of any membership pack will be the admin of putting the packs together and sending them out. As a result I'm sure there are enough funds for website improvements if as mentioned one of the Directors is already busy in their full time job and unable to implement the changes.
I have no idea about vbulletin and proboards, etc. I just read the forums and see a box in which to type and add smileys etc, when I feel like posting, so works fine for me.
Firstly £15 for a yearly club membership is nothing compared to a lot of clubs so I'd say we are getting it pretty good, plus I think it's very ignorance of you assuming where the money goes. If you think about it the membership pack (oh wait, you're not even a member
Secondly the whole "if you don't give the customers what they want they'll leave" marlakay is a little ridiculous. You also hit the nail on the head by describing it as a "community", exactly - everyone likes the people on this forum (well the majority anyways
It was/is a fair enough question and I don't think anyone's trying to berate Dunx or the SCUK team in any way or for their work. Rather the opposite, I think they should take it as a pat on the back and a sign that the club's doing well! It's a good thing people want to know about SCUK2 and are keen to support it and see it arrive - it's good to have a community that's interested and wants to be involved (if only from reading the occasional update) in the club's progression and growth. There are undoubtedly also new members every year who may not know that SCUK2 is in the pipeline, or anything about it as most of the threads aren't stickies, so it's good to have the occasional thread on it
Must be nice for Dunx to know people do actually want it too and that an update wouldn't be a white elephant in the eyes of the already paid up membership (though I'm sure that's already appreciated) too!
This may be a silly suggestion, But could you not roll out the upgrades in phases. So that the site evolves rather than boom you wake up in the morning and Boom we now have SCUK2
This may be a silly suggestion, But could you not roll out the upgrades in phases. So that the site evolves rather than boom you wake up in the morning and Boom we now have SCUK2
I'm voting for the boom.
Pretty sure that's exactly what Dunx said in his post, that it'll be an evolution over time, with a switch to a different system/cms being the first stage in the process
Everyone will throws their dummy out of the pram when things change they aways do! just like they does when facebook has an update!
Like dunx has said the problem was letting people know about SCUK2 too early on in the process. If you didn't know it was coming would everyone still be asking for updates? or would they just carry on being happy with what they have. Its only because you have heard of these 'pretty' new features that you now want them.
You can't please everyone all the time.
Some people will leave because there are no update and others will leave because there are updates! People come and go its what happens with an online community.
For them that can remember (very few i think left now) It happened with The Boarder changed over to SCUK the old school community split, some coming this way others going there own way.
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The only thing we could change IMO, get rid of the review section. Its dead weight and nobody uses it.
Bring in a photo section (and make people hotlink through flicker or whatever rather than taking up server space)
And please get it to stop logging me out for no reason
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I seriously doubt the whole £15 goes on administrating discounts. Shops/holiday firms will want to give discounts as it's an easy customer base. The main cost of any membership pack will be the admin of putting the packs together and sending them out. As a result I'm sure there are enough funds for website improvements if as mentioned one of the Directors is already busy in their full time job and unable to implement the changes.
I have no idea about vbulletin and proboards, etc. I just read the forums and see a box in which to type and add smileys etc, when I feel like posting, so works fine for me.
Firstly £15 for a yearly club membership is nothing compared to a lot of clubs so I'd say we are getting it pretty good, plus I think it's very ignorance of you assuming where the money goes. If you think about it the membership pack (oh wait, you're not even a member
Secondly the whole "if you don't give the customers what they want they'll leave" marlakay is a little ridiculous. You also hit the nail on the head by describing it as a "community", exactly - everyone likes the people on this forum (well the majority anyways
Woah hold your horses. I have been a member in the past so I know what goes into a membership pack. In the pack I received a membership card and a dvd of my choice.
You may question my ignorance but I work in a business environment and I HAVE seen the financial position of Snowboard Club Limited from it's accounts posted the 30/4/2010.
You mean like... having the limitations of a snowboarding insurance policy tailored by the users of the forum?
http://www.snowboardclub.co.uk/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-45361-postdays-0-pos...
Or a brand new indoor slope offering us a 55% discount due to good relations between one of the directors and Hemel slope?
http://www.snowboardclub.co.uk/slopes-hemeli.html
The reason membership is £15 rather than the once previous £30 is because it was recognised users benefited more from our connections/discounts rather than a few freebies, so lowering the price offered more to what members wanted
Short sighted posting from an obviously non businessman.
You mean like... having the limitations of a snowboarding insurance policy tailored by the users of the forum?
http://www.snowboardclub.co.uk/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-45361-postdays-0-pos...
Or a brand new indoor slope offering us a 55% discount due to good relations between one of the directors and Hemel slope?
http://www.snowboardclub.co.uk/slopes-hemeli.html
The reason membership is £15 rather than the once previous £30 is because it was recognised users benefited more from our connections/discounts rather than a few freebies, so lowering the price offered more to what members wanted
Short sighted posting from an obviously non businessman.
Again a poor response of someone jumping in two footed. No-one had responded from SCUK. I was refering to posts by Nickmotture and Charlie that said it was up to Dunx whether it was updated and no-one else and about the admin costs for the membership.
You mean like... having the limitations of a snowboarding insurance policy tailored by the users of the forum?
http://www.snowboardclub.co.uk/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-45361-postdays-0-pos...
Or a brand new indoor slope offering us a 55% discount due to good relations between one of the directors and Hemel slope?
http://www.snowboardclub.co.uk/slopes-hemeli.html
The reason membership is £15 rather than the once previous £30 is because it was recognised users benefited more from our connections/discounts rather than a few freebies, so lowering the price offered more to what members wanted
Short sighted posting from an obviously non businessman.
Again a poor response of someone jumping in two footed. No-one had responded from SCUK. I was refering to posts by Nickmotture and Charlie that said it was up to Dunx whether it was updated and no-one else and about the admin costs for the membership.
You mean, "poor response as they don't agree with my almighty opinion"
Neither Nick or Charlie said it was up to Dunx only, yes there are other directors of SCUK, however Dunx is the one who interacts most with the forum and site, thus is best to comment on potential upgrades -- Which is what Charlie said
Perhaps read the replies before posting? :S
Good luck to the company of the 'business environment' you work in if you're just going to ignore the input of people who are a large and frequent part of this organisation [Being the tea boy for IBM doesn't count by the way...]