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Sonny 
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Post subject: the great Burton Mission/chairlift disaster...
 Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 10:25 AM
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First post: Sep 29, 2005
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morning folks
i'm the latest in the long line of wet-behind-the-ears snowboardists to find out that Burton Missions are allergic to chairlifts. because of that ridiculous and totally superfluous clip on the forward lean adjuster (that seems only to be there to ensure that the highback gets destroyed by chairlifts) my highback was shattered 3 days into my holiday in andorra.
love the bindings apart from that so decided to shell out for some more and try and drill out that ridiculous clip. now, i'm pretty pissed off at my destroyed bindings (after all of 3 days use, 140 notes gone) and am going to try and get my money back on the grounds that nobody warned me about this in the shop when i bought them.
has anyone had experience of this and have they been able to get thier money back / exchange? did you go to the retailer or direct to Burton? i've seen now that it does mention this shocking design flaw on the box (duh...) so will they just tell me "sorry pleb, but you should have read the box, no money/new bindings for you."?
any thoughts...? |
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PropagandaSnowboards
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Post subject: RE: the great Burton Mission/chairlift disaster...
Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 10:35 AM
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First post: Jun 27, 2005
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Norbert666
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Post subject: RE: the great Burton Mission/chairlift disaster...
Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 11:11 AM
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First post: Nov 20, 2005
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Location: Essex
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| What actually happened? What's the problem with the clip? |
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Sonny
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Post subject: RE: the great Burton Mission/chairlift disaster...
Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 11:27 AM
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thanks man - i thought about the travel insurance route - may have to look into it. if i tell them the story exactly like that am i covered, or do they need some kind of written proof of my loss from the resort or anything? never done this before...
norbert, basically that infernal clip holds the highback in the up position, so that it doesnt collapse down when you're on the chairlift. then, as you're getting off the lift as the ground is coming up to meet you the highback on the back binding gets squashed between the board and the underside of the chairlift and it shatters.
brilliant. why that f**kin' clip is there, i don't know. |
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Norbert666
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Post subject: Re: RE: the great Burton Mission/chairlift disaster...
Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 11:33 AM
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First post: Nov 20, 2005
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Location: Essex
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Sonny wrote:
norbert, basically that infernal clip holds the highback in the up position, so that it doesnt collapse down when you're on the chairlift. then, as you're getting off the lift as the ground is coming up to meet you the highback on the back binding gets squashed between the board and the underside of the chairlift and it shatters.
brilliant. why that f**kin' clip is there, i don't know.
aha i see. I actually use the clip to set my highbacks lean forward.
You could unclip it and lower it before you get on the lift? (that's not meant to sound like I'm taking the piss. I have the same bindings, but haven't used them in anger yet) |
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PropagandaSnowboards
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Post subject: Re: RE: the great Burton Mission/chairlift disaster...
Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 11:41 AM
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Norbert666 wrote:
You could unclip it and lower it before you get on the lift? (that's not meant to sound like I'm taking the piss. I have the same bindings, but haven't used them in anger yet)
Pretty sure thats what they suggest in the book........ Ive got the Cartels and when most chairs come round at speed they would snap em off if they werent unclipped.....
Think the clip is also there to add strength and make adjusting it quick and easy...... but havent really read into it too much..... |
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Sonny
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: the great Burton Mission/chairlift disaster...
Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 12:12 PM
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its not the collision as they come round that gets you, its the back binding getting squished between the ground and the chair as you get off.
haha... i know it sounds obvious now mate but i didn't think the chair would actually come low enough to snap it off, and it's something that can easily slip your mind as you get on the chairlift 10-20 times a day.
the clip stays permanently unfastened now! i just leave it dangling... i'm gonna try and snap the bolt holding the clip on. god knows what it's doing there, the highback adjustment would be just as quick and easy without it, like every other binding. i was even tempted to get some P1s cos they dont have the clip at all but they'd be too stiff (and expensive!) for my beginner ass. |
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MattR
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: the great Burton Mission/chairlift disaster...
Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 12:35 PM
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i think they unscrew........... no need to snap it off!
You might end up with no stop to hold the high back in position........ that would be bad...... |
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pugsley
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Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 12:46 PM
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The clips are used to provide stiffness to the highback ... ride clipped and un-clipped and there's a noticeable (albeit small) difference.
Burton dont warrenty against lift damage, so just claim it as something else. I've had a few highbacks replaced due to me snapping them and chairlift damage |
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Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 12:59 PM
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| im pretty sure mine just unscrewed |
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Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 02:20 PM
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| They are meant to unscrew. Just got a pair of missions so am glad I read this. Cheers for the warning. Will remember to unclip the back one before getting on the lift |
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Sonny
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Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 03:09 PM
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hmmm... the pin holding the catch into the forward lean adjuster doesn't unscrew on my highbacks. i think i'll have to clip off the end of the pin with some wirecutters or summat.
thanks for the input folks. wish me luck... |
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Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 03:56 PM
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I had a couple of close calls with mine but you sharp get into the swing of unclipping them before you get on the lift, gives you something to do in the lift queue.
I would think about trying to do this rather than possibly ruining your bindings, and if you are a beginner as you mentioned you may need them down the line if you wish to be able to tweak your stance when you get a little better.... |
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Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 04:03 PM
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Posted: Jan 18, 2006 - 06:39 PM
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There is a clear warning in the little booklet that comes with Burton Missions and indeed every binding in the line that features a lockable highback.
Feel sorry for you but, the fault is with you not with the binding. I had Missions for 4 years, used them all over the world and made literally thousands of chairlift journeys on them, never had any problems.
If the clip was superfluous it would have been phased out by now, it's there to provide extra rigidity and flexibility.
Your best bet is to lie about how it happened. If you tell them what really happened you won't have a leg to stand on, although admittedly you'll only have one highback to support it anyway!
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