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Post subject: Snowboard1.co.uk  PostPosted: Jul 30, 2012 - 04:27 PM



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Hi everyone,

Just a heads up if you are thinking about buying anything from www.snowboard1.co.uk

1. This is a czech based company who are posing as a UK shop offering free delivery to the UK and EXTREMELY cheap prices.

2. The brands do not know who this company is, therefore the products you are purchasing are more than likely fake or chinese seconds.

3. You will not be covered by the brand in the event of a warranty issue arising.

4. You may never receive your goods.

Rolling Eyes Feeling sick

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Post subject: RE: Snowboard1.co.uk (Czech Fraud)  PostPosted: Jul 30, 2012 - 08:44 PM



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I've never heard of this company before - this is probably the most advertising they've had in the UK! Still, some interesting comments from buyers on their Facebook page...

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Post subject: RE: Snowboard1.co.uk (Czech Fraud)  PostPosted: Jul 30, 2012 - 09:38 PM



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found this company a while ago when looking for a 686 Snaggletooth jacket - they seemed to be the only play in EU with one and it was abnormally cheap. Nearly ordered thinking that if it's VISA-secured then what the hell, but couldn't be arsed in the end as I just got a worse and worse feeling about the site/prices...

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Post subject: RE: Snowboard1.co.uk (Czech Fraud)  PostPosted: Jul 31, 2012 - 12:00 AM



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"Hello,
I received my snowboard the other day and I am very pleased with how quick the came. However upon taking my new board to a snowboard shop to have bindings put on they told me there is a factory fault with one of the threads meaning I can only have 3 out of the 4 screws attached. "

Kinda confirms my theory...

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Post subject: Re: RE: Snowboard1.co.uk (Czech Fraud)  PostPosted: Jul 31, 2012 - 12:03 AM



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BartSimpsonhead wrote:
I've never heard of this company before - this is probably the most advertising they've had in the UK! Still, some interesting comments from buyers on their Facebook page...


agreed...seems quite negative ... definitely something fishy going on! Thumbs Down Feeling sick

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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Snowboard1.co.uk (Czech Fraud)  PostPosted: Jul 31, 2012 - 12:19 AM



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Still, there are companies out there who buy-up seconds and past seasons boards - if you look around you can get a good bargain. Just depends how trust-worthy you think they are behind a slick web front end.

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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Snowboard1.co.uk (Czech Fraud)  PostPosted: Jul 31, 2012 - 09:16 AM



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BartSimpsonhead wrote:
Still, there are companies out there who buy-up seconds and past seasons boards - if you look around you can get a good bargain. Just depends how trust-worthy you think they are behind a slick web front end.


We actively buy up ex-demo and sample product, but this stuff is always clearly labelled on our website and the discounts reflect that compared to the full price gear..

It seems to me that these guys are just fleecing people into thinking they are getting something they're not which really isn't cool!

The fact that the brands have no idea who they are also concerns me... Angelic

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 31, 2012 - 10:07 AM



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They buy up bankrupt stock, samples, factory seconds, stock from shops that have closed as well as fake etc and pass it off as new, this is why most of the brands are not aware of them, because the majority is from other sources. selling into the UK and making things worse for retailers, the distributors in europe are helpless as the stock is not coming from them, therefore the usual converstaions are not taking place.
well done snowboard1, way to ruin UK retailing
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 31, 2012 - 06:52 PM



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without wanting to sound like a tw4t, but why dig up all posts about this company only to pretty much bad-mouth them?

I know it's looking like they're a little dodgy but at the end of the day do you have any 100% proof they're dodgy, fraudulent, or anything else that's been mentioned here? Put yourself in their shoes - how would you like a foreign forum to stumble upon your site, think something a little off about it and then openly bad mouth you (without being a customer or having any dealings with you)? How long before you would question whether certain words/comments were verging on the side of libelous?

If they're passing off rejected stock, 2nds, defects as new then it's 1 thing. But, if they're a kinda snowboard-specific TKMaxx buying up unwanted/surplus stock and passing on those savings then it's still the legit gear (all be it possibly without the warranty of being a registered supplier for that brand). Without knowing the actual details it's arguably wrong to state they are fraudulent or their stock is out and out sub-par.

I can understand a pissed off customer complaining about the quality of good received (or not) but it seems a little off for for a retailer to be so aggressively attacking another retailer (especially without them able to defend themselves)

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 31, 2012 - 07:40 PM



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I have to admit I agree with dereks post...

I was about to add something similar, I can't see they have done much wrong?

Has anyone here actually been a customer and received a "fake" board, or even bought a board from them that is listed as new and then clearly been a second because then were on to another story.

Otherwise while they are not actively making a big deal of them being Czech i don't see that they are hiding it? There facebook location is czeck as is their "about us" page on their site.

I think bad mouthing them without good evidence is very bad taste especially from a fellow shop.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Aug 01, 2012 - 09:15 AM



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The problem is that we have received constant price matches, comparisons and enquiries relating to snowboard1, but people do not seem to realise that they are a czech based company and warranty claims/future problems are going to be hard to deal with, aswell as the product probably not being genuine in the first place...

Also - none of our UK/european suppliers know who these guys are so you will get zero support from the brand you are investing in...

I admit that maybe the title of this thread may have been a little aggressive but i am sick to death of having to deal with the amount of issues that these guys are causing for all of the UK independent shops...

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Aug 01, 2012 - 10:47 AM



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So in otherwords, you don't like the fact that a rival business within the EU can undercut you and you thought you'd slander them online? Can you actually prove they are selling knock off goods instead of buying up bankrupt stock, stock from shops that have closed, etc?

Maybe you should remove the fraud part from the title, as it sounds like people are receving the goods they're paying for.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Aug 01, 2012 - 10:57 AM



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Agreed - Admin can you remove the word Fraud from the title please...

Apart from that, i feel that all other comments are legit though as their feedback is full of complaints about the stock that people have received... all i am really trying to do is to inform people that you may not get what you think you are as we have been battling this all winter and it has upset a lot of distributors here in the uk..

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Aug 01, 2012 - 03:15 PM



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Given the number of 'core' fan boys and girls that like to rear their heads whenever the importing discussion usually comes up, I'm really quite surprised at the backlash here.

Granted, perhaps some of the claims are a little spurious and a lack of evidence doesn't help things, but isn't this rather the point of building a community around our 'beloved' indie/uk/local shops? If the retail industry (distro's, shops etc) are dubious about the quality of stock and receiving a lot of questions due to faulty kit from said EU shop, wouldn't we all be the first to cry about it if they hadn't said anything?

Perhaps SCUK isn't the best channel to have it dealt through, or at least the way in which it was iterated could've been done better, but I can't see why an established shop would go out of their way to be malicious or bad mouth another purely for a trading advantage.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Aug 01, 2012 - 05:12 PM



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I'd usually be one of them being a core 'fan' boy... but I've given up chas... I usually get a slagging for fighting for core shops and brands but it's just not worth it.

I've started to realise that those who don't get why the independant local retailers is important, or why buying off randoms on the web is not always the cheapest solution.. will never get it.

leave them to their factory seconds, continuous waves of 60% reductions because we've made to many again and all the guys at your local dryslope (if it hasn't gone under yet) wearing the same kit they got online as their mates

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