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Rossklx 
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Post subject: Universal jacket to pant zip in connector
 Posted: Jul 24, 2012 - 04:24 PM
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First post: Jul 14, 2012
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Hi guys and girls just a quick hello as it's the first time I have posted on here so hello to all!!!!
Right into my first question does anyone know of a universal zip in pant connector as I'm having to constantly pull down my powder skirt after bending over,landing on my butt, adjusting bindings, absorbing landings, sitting on chairlifts etc etc.
And if I don't pull it back down I get snow where I rather not have it or get a cold back on the chairlift.
So wondering if anyone does a universal zip in pant connector like the way you zip in with 2 piece motorcycle leathers.
I know volcom have the patent all selaed up now so no one can produce a zip together jacket and pant but wondering if any aftermarket companys may do and things that may modify other brand clothing
My current jacket is a burton stagger and I have burton carhartt pants which I have just bought as these are the toughest gore tex fabrics I can find as I crash a lot and rip holes through lightweight materials.
And volcom fabrics have just gone all lightweight so no good for me
The burton kit does have the jacket to pant connectors system but it does not still stop the powder skirt from riding up. |
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nickmotture
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Post subject: RE: Universal jacket to pant zip in connector
Posted: Jul 24, 2012 - 05:04 PM
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dunx
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Post subject: RE: Universal jacket to pant zip in connector
Posted: Jul 24, 2012 - 06:08 PM
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You're a funny shape though Nick |
You can't have a universal system unless everybody used the same system... obviously. But, I'd say the most flexible system is one where the snow skirt on the jacket has press stud poppered loops that connect to loops on the pants. Okay, the positions won't always match, but it's more likely that the jacket can connect to any old pants via the existing belt loops.
My Burton jacket use press stud loops, but my Burton pants have additional belt loops that match up just right. Not sure how you'd fare with different pants or what other systems you find on other jackets.
My Burton jacket also has a rubberised edge to the powder skirt helping keep it in place. Not sure how common that is.
Best bet is really to go with matching top/bottom with the correct interface. |
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Post subject: RE: Universal jacket to pant zip in connector
Posted: Jul 24, 2012 - 08:25 PM
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Yeah my burton jacket pants have loops and press studs but there that loose on the the powder skirt still lifts up.
I have had a idea to use the zip for the powder skirt make a elasticised waist band that zips into that then weaves in and out of the belt loops with a belt fitted this is the only way I can see to do it without getting a tailor to sew a zip onto the top of my trousers |
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Post subject: RE: Universal jacket to pant zip in connector
Posted: Jul 24, 2012 - 11:45 PM
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I suppose if you really, really wanted a zipped jacket-to-pant connection then you could try Lancashire Sports Repairs who do all sorts of good stuff - a mate of mine had pit-zips put into her high-end Volcom jacket (why it didn't have them to begin with we couldn't work out!) and you really couldn't tell it didn't come with them originally fitted (LSR's work was that good.)
You can find them at http://www.lancashiresportsrepairs.co.u ... epairs.htm
It's not listed, but you could try calling them for a price. |
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eltankos
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Posted: Jul 25, 2012 - 02:27 PM
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| Finally, I can get a bum flap fitted to my board trousers, for effortless pooping. |
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ChasKi
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Posted: Jul 25, 2012 - 10:05 PM
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I have some Burton kit that zips together and I love it just for that fact.
It'll never happen, but in the world of dreams they'd just let other manufacturers use the system and improve the experience for the consumers of the industry in general. |
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Posted: Jul 25, 2012 - 11:42 PM
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I've said it before, but I just can't understand how a company can patent the idea of using a zip to connect trousers to jackets.
Motorbike clothing manufacturers have all been doing it for years and no-one's turned around and said, "Oi! We did that first! So you can't do it too"......
In fact, any item of bike clothing that has a zip connector comes with the other half of the zip so that you can stitch it into whichever other piece of clothing you choose to make them work together. |
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Rossklx
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Posted: Jul 26, 2012 - 08:58 AM
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| My thoughts exactly if volcom have this patent all sewn up like they think they have surely every motorbike clothing manufacturer would be in violation of there supposed patent but the thing is volcom would never pursue the patent with the likes of alpinestars, Arlen ness, RST, etc etc because the might of these companies would rip volcom apart in the courts. |
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Posted: Jul 26, 2012 - 09:13 AM
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Rossklx wrote:
My thoughts exactly if volcom have this patent all sewn up like they think they have surely every motorbike clothing manufacturer would be in violation of there supposed patent but the thing is volcom would never pursue the patent with the likes of alpinestars, Arlen ness, RST, etc etc because the might of these companies would rip volcom apart in the courts.
Not quite true - Volcom are owned by the company that owns Puma, Gucci, Yves Saint Laurent, Stella Macartney, Alexander Macqueen etc etc so there would be more than enough might to chase these people if they wanted to! |
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Posted: Jul 26, 2012 - 11:17 AM
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ace_mcgraw wrote:
Rossklx wrote:
My thoughts exactly if volcom have this patent all sewn up like they think they have surely every motorbike clothing manufacturer would be in violation of there supposed patent but the thing is volcom would never pursue the patent with the likes of alpinestars, Arlen ness, RST, etc etc because the might of these companies would rip volcom apart in the courts.
Not quite true - Volcom are owned by the company that owns Puma, Gucci, Yves Saint Laurent, Stella Macartney, Alexander Macqueen etc etc so there would be more than enough might to chase these people if they wanted to!
Well volcoms motto is a massive hypocritical statement going by there parent company size and obvious establishment/institution
"YOUTH AGAINST ESTABLISHMENT" |
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Rossklx
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Posted: Jul 26, 2012 - 11:20 AM
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| Well already have my prototype interface in production just waiting for fabrics samples now so I can decide on what stretch material to use from pants to jacket but the initial belt loop design is done and works really well. |
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nickmotture
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Posted: Jul 26, 2012 - 02:44 PM
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Rossklx
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Posted: Jul 26, 2012 - 03:23 PM
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Nah
I already had ideas on what to do just did not want to start designing something that may have been already readily available to buy that I could save me the hassle.
But cut up a old pair of trousers and made a belt loop interface not hard really just some loops on a piece of fabric.
What I did not realise was the inconsistency of the belt loops on the trousers I thought they may be evenly spaced but not so all of them had different spacing.
As for designing things quickly that's what I like doing I do it all the time with my bikes if I need a tool either I modify something or just get the mig welder out and tack something together to do the job or stick some metal in the lathe and turn something out |
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BartSimpsonhead
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Posted: Jul 26, 2012 - 10:58 PM
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First post: Oct 25, 2004
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Ahh right - Bonfire used to do a 'snap-tight' belt that you could snap the poppers on the jacket's snow skirt onto to give a more secure fit.
Quite a good idea, but depending on the jacket the poppers on the snow skirt rarely aligned with the poppers on the belt (meaning you could have really tight bits of snow skirt, and really loose bits that snow could get up).
I think they changed the size of the poppers on the jackets in later years too. |
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