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joeyofficer 
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Post subject: Basi Snowboard Instructor Gap training
 Posted: Jul 11, 2012 - 02:23 PM
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Hi, I am looking at taking a Basi 10 week gap training for Level 1 and 2 in Europe. There are a number of sites offering cources. Could anyone let me know who they think is a good company to go with.
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TaskMaster
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Posted: Jul 11, 2012 - 03:49 PM
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Hi mate i'm currently on my BASI 1 and am booked on a 10 week course for the BASI 2 so i can give you plenty of tips if needed.
Like you i spent aaaaaaages researching all the various companies, comparing resorts, prices, level of coaching etc and i settled on snowboardcoach.co.uk. I honestly can't recommend them highly enough, easily the best coaching i've had and just generally all round top guys. It also helped they were by far and away the cheapest  |
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Posted: Jul 11, 2012 - 05:26 PM
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I did my Level 2 this season just gone and passed in Bansko. Id recommend SNowboardcoach. Theyve moved to andorra to do the level 2 this time which i think is good, but the whole experience was great.
Excellent training over 3 months, really pushes you and makes you a better rider and prepared for the level 2.
So Snowboardcoach all the way. Ash is really good and makes the training easy and quite laid back but still tough |
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joeyofficer
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Posted: Jul 11, 2012 - 05:43 PM
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| Thanks for the reply, appreciate the feedback |
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Posted: Jul 12, 2012 - 05:40 PM
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I too would recommend snowboardcoach having done my level 2 with them this season in bansko.
very proffesional and a great laugh.
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James
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Posted: Jul 12, 2012 - 09:21 PM
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| More to the point I would say is what Instructor system to go with; do you want to go with BASI, or would you be better off with another Instructor system; look into that first. |
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snwskl
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Posted: Jul 13, 2012 - 04:01 PM
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Hey Joeyofficer - James is right...you have to consider the different regulatory bodies and what you want to get out of a course. BASI is a super-strong system but it is more focussed on high-end/ technical riding whereas a Canadian or American qualification is more guest-centred and about giving the customer the riding experience that he or she wants. Different people suit different courses...at SnowSkool, we do courses to learn AASI, BASI, CASI and SBINZ and I always say that someone joining a BASI course will become a very strong technical rider but if that same person joined an AASI or CASI course, I think they would become a better overall rider because the snow tends to offer more challenges in North America than in Europe and because there is more of an off-piste/ backcountry/ freestyle focus on the AASI and CASI quals.
So basically it depends on what you are looking for...sure, if you want to become a snowboard instructor in Europe for the rest of your life, BASI is a great system to get into but you mentioned "gap training" and so if you're on a gap year and want a fantastic experience, why not head out West and dive into the powder?!?! |
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TaskMaster
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Posted: Jul 14, 2012 - 07:36 PM
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Sorry but not sure i get your logic. Surely the whole point of doing snowboarding lessons is to learn to snowboard effecitively? I don't think it matters if your BASI, CASI or AASI, if you're a good teacher, understand the syllabus,explain it well and your students reach their goal and enjoy it, how will the riding experience differ? I'm not having a dig just interested to know what's so different between BASI.CASI/AASI with regards to "guest centered" can you explain?
You're saying doing BASI will make you stronger technically but that you would be better overall if you done AASI or CASI, sorry but isn't that contradicting?
If you could elaborate i'd be interested to hear your thoughts |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2012 - 08:58 PM
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Lil Dave!! Reveal yourself Herbie? |
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siany
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Posted: Jul 15, 2012 - 08:18 AM
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TaskMaster wrote:
Sorry but not sure i get your logic. Surely the whole point of doing snowboarding lessons is to learn to snowboard effecitively? I don't think it matters if your BASI, CASI or AASI, if you're a good teacher, understand the syllabus,explain it well and your students reach their goal and enjoy it, how will the riding experience differ? I'm not having a dig just interested to know what's so different between BASI.CASI/AASI with regards to "guest centered" can you explain?
You're saying doing BASI will make you stronger technically but that you would be better overall if you done AASI or CASI, sorry but isn't that contradicting?
If you could elaborate i'd be interested to hear your thoughts
I think he/she means that with BASI it will teach you ride better in a technical sense but maybe not enable you to explain this how to others. |
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Posted: Jul 15, 2012 - 10:43 AM
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^ can snwskl expand on that tho... I only ask 'cos I really question it
BASI requires not only a technical riding exam but 35 hrs shadowing for level 1 and an additional 35 for level 2 - so you've helped out and gaining teaching experience for 70 hours before teaching on a mountain.
CASI has zero shadowing or teaching experience requirement, only a technical exam afaik.
AASI I'm not sure about, but would be amazed if there is a requirement of more than 35hrs teaching experience to pass level 1. |
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Posted: Jul 15, 2012 - 09:01 PM
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siany wrote:
I think he/she means that with BASI it will teach you ride better in a technical sense but maybe not enable you to explain this how to others.
I'd have to disagree, you're assessed on your teaching ability, if you can't convey the lessons then you don't pass. I've not really seen AASI/CASI lessons so i'm genuinely interested to know how they are better at explaining things.
Also got to agree with Dereks, i'm pretty certain the shadowing makes a huge difference. |
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Posted: Jul 16, 2012 - 09:53 AM
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sorry if i didn't explain well...it is nothing to do with how the message is conveyed from the instructor - that is purely down to the individual! what i mean is that, with instructor training courses in practice, the basi (and other european) qualifications have a repuatation for being stronger qualifications. and to a great extent, this is right - the 70 hrs of work experience is totally beneficial and will provide really valuable insights into working as an instructor.
what i am saying, though, is that the basi quals are more about hi-end on-piste riding, really getting down and dirty in the super-technical aspects of your snowboarding technique. the casi and aasi systems are technical too, of course, but less so and include a greater focus on all-mountain riding.
with regards to overall riding...i think there is more scope for improvement on casi and aasi courses as, normally, north american resorts have more snow and wilder terrain than euro resorts*. here i was making the distinction between the most technical, most graceful, turn-perfect snowboarder and some dude who can ride the most gnarly terrain even if (and who cares?) his shoulders rotate a little too much or if his weight is slightly off-kilter. i have described the two extremes and, of course, the basi vs casi/ aasi systems are nowhere near those extremes but it was to illustrate a point.
hope it all makes sense?!
* yes i know chamonix and verbier and alagna have sick terrain but they are not exactly representative of euro resorts...! |
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Posted: Jul 16, 2012 - 01:41 PM
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You also need to consider if you're doing this as a career, and if so where you want to work. If you may want to work in Europe at some stage, you should consider BASI.
Also, have you decided you definitely want to do a 10 week gap course? If your primary motivation is to get the qualifications you can do the qualifications on their own, and save a lot of money. If you think you need more training to get to Level 2 standard, gap courses are a good option.
Check out
www.basigap.com and
www.basi.org.uk
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Posted: Jul 16, 2012 - 07:14 PM
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| Excellent training over 3 months, really pushes you and makes you a better rider and prepared for the level 2.[/img]http://www.demama.info/g.gif[img][/img] |
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