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Post subject: ESF Group Lessons - English?  PostPosted: Jan 22, 2012 - 02:28 PM



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Hi,

I'm heading to Val Thorens next week and am thinking about group lessons with the ESF. Since my French is terrible does anyone know if they do it in English too? I know private lessons can be in English but was hoping this would be better.
 
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Post subject: RE: ESF Group Lessons - English?  PostPosted: Jan 22, 2012 - 04:20 PM



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There are a load of English instructors out there that are a million times betterthan esf

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 22, 2012 - 05:09 PM



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What he said, never ever have snowboard lessons with ESF unless you want to be taught really weird technique by a skier on a snowboard

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 22, 2012 - 05:34 PM



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Okay, I didn't realise this! Are there any that you'd recommend?
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 22, 2012 - 07:12 PM



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http://www.rtmsnowboarding.com/

Rob Sanderson took my instructors course, laid back but precise.
They are in Meribel and Courchevel though, Being in Val Thorens and getting a native English snowboard instructor may be an issue..just from a google search
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 22, 2012 - 07:33 PM



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DrSnowboard wrote:
http://www.rtmsnowboarding.com/


I had trouble finding English speaking snowboard instructors in Val Thorens also, many thanks for the recommendation Smile
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 22, 2012 - 09:05 PM



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I had two ESF instructors (actually ESF trainees at UCPA) and to be honest they were just as good or better than the English instructors I've had.

OK, so perhaps the techniques they were teaching me aren't fully approved by the UK experts but it worked for me. Always surprises me how good lots of French snowboarders are considering they were all taught so badly Wink

Of course, you're more likely to be in safe hands with someone like RTM (or try Stevie at New Generation Courchevel http://www.skinewgen.com/courchevel1650/ for amazing carving), but if ESF's your only option it may not be quite as bad as you're led to believe. I'm pretty sure they'll guarantee an English speaking instructor if you state English language when you book.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 22, 2012 - 09:50 PM



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Kerb, thanks for your thoughts. Getting over to Meribel from Val Thorens looks impossible for a morning lesson so I may be stuck with ESF. Have e-mailed RTM to see if they have any afternoon sessions going, private ones may be too expensive for my student budget (!).

I'm sure these ESF guys can snowboard well enough to point out my faults.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 05, 2012 - 09:31 AM



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An update if anyone's interested in this. Just back from VT and had a great time, epic powder. I ended up going with a school called Prosneige. Great instructor (Mathieu) who gave us a mix of freestyle, carving and off-piste - lots of fun! He did have a background with the ESF but from what I could tell that was definitely no bad thing.

I entered at their "Confirmed/Expert" level and ended up with two 7 year old children. No bad thing though, they definitely pushed me hard popping 360s off the piste! Definitely recommend these guys in VT.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 05, 2012 - 10:02 AM



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Both my kids had lessons with ESF a few weeks ago (small resort so no alternative). Not only was their English good (this was a resort that gets very few British tourists) but their coaching was first rate. My eldest went from being cautious on blues to carving reds with all the proper weighting & unweighting & looking great. He was the only one in his group so had 1-to-1 coaching for a week though!

I guess that, as with everything, there's both good & bad.
 
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