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DannyLoki 
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Post subject: Getting straight & flat
 Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 12:33 PM
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Tignes in 2 weeks, and after a few efforts off the small kickers in Livigno last year, I want to up my game a bit.
Looking for tips on getting the board flat and KEEPING it straight. I ride a Bataleon so I get a bit of forgiveness with the edges. I ride regular with my bindings at (L)15 degrees & (R)10 degrees.
Maybe I just need a bigger set of balls for when it picks up speed. |
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fundamental
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Post subject: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 12:41 PM
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Dunno mate. I tried the balls thing and at least once, it went REALLY wrong and I just completely lost my composure in the air. Dead sailor is the term apparently lol.
There was a similar thread the other day and someone mentioned going up the kicker on edge which I never would have thought to do myself. I'm thinking of getting some freestlyle lessons or something to just learn properly. Anyway I'll be watching the thread and I hope you get some responses for us  |
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charlie
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Post subject: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 12:43 PM
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| Keep your shoulders in line with your board, relax Practice popping into the air at a set point on the flat so you can time popping off the lip too. If you just fly off the kicker then you always have less control than when you pop off the lip. |
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Post subject: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 12:44 PM
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| Oh and freestyle lessons would probably be useful. |
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DannyLoki
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Post subject: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 12:46 PM
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| Most embarrassing boarding moment was actually on a kicker in Livigno. Got plenty of speed up, lost composure and line, front edge caught at the foot of the kicker and I faceplanted into it, with a waiting crowd. Awful scenes. |
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Post subject: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 01:04 PM
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| I had all these fat kids pointing and laughing at my face full of snow. All part of the fun |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 01:53 PM
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charlie wrote:
Oh and freestyle lessons would probably be useful.
Freestyle lessons aren't really going to teach you how to ride flatbase and straight and, in fact, if you can't really do that, then you're not going to get much out of freestyle instruction. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 02:04 PM
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| I was responding to the kicker aspect... in which case freestyle lessons would help. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 02:10 PM
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| I can ride flat base. Just dunno how (or why I'm supposed) to go up a kicker in on edge. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 02:12 PM
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kickers or no kickers charlie's advice is still valid, keep shoulders in line so theres equal pressure distribution and stay balanced and relaxed.
what your tying to do is stand on the board without actually having any input on how it rides. your just a passenger on the board |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 02:13 PM
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fundamental wrote:
I can ride flat base. Just dunno how (or why I'm supposed) to go up a kicker in on edge.
you need an edge if your going to spin of it |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 02:44 PM
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 02:53 PM
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NickE wrote:
Freestyle lessons aren't really going to teach you how to ride flatbase and straight and, in fact, if you can't really do that, then you're not going to get much out of freestyle instruction.
I'd have to disagree with you there.
Any decent freestyle beginner lesson should run through the basics with you before they have you doing anything too challenging.
You won't go too far wrong following Charlies advice though.
As for lining up for straight airs, some people take off with a very slight weight on an edge. Personally I'm totally flat for the last 5 metres or so so I can get my body position ready to get maximum pop from the tail without having to worry about last second adjustments or edge catches from choppy take offs. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 04:09 PM
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Dylanrobinson wrote:
Any decent freestyle beginner lesson should run through the basics with you before they have you doing anything too challenging.
I’d agree with that, but I was thinking more about what level you need to be at to benefit from freestyle lessons.
If I have someone who can’t ride on a flat base for even a short distance, then it’s unlikely that they will learn to do so just from listening to me run through the basics. They are going to need to spend more time working on their general riding. Maybe that’s just practice time or maybe that’s lessons. If they’re in a private “freestyle” lesson, then it’s easy to adapt the lesson to focus on the body management fundamentals needed for freestyle, but you probably want to do that away from the park. If they’re in a group lesson with others who are wanting to hit the kickers or boxes, then it’s a problem, because that’s not really the best place to be working on that sort of thing. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Getting straight & flat
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 04:49 PM
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First post: Apr 22, 2009
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Yeah I think those are all fair points.
Surly with a little guidance most people should be able to flat base almost straight away though, it's not too hard to do. I bet you'd rather have to quickly show someone that in a freestyle lesson than any of the other basics. I appreciate how it can be difficult to teach a group with even slight skill differences.
I'm with you though, Ideally this should be practised beforehand. |
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