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jsayersuk 
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Post subject: Seasonaires stealing deposit money
 Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 09:51 PM
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First post: Jan 09, 2012
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I'm not sure if anyone will be able to help me with this but i think everyone ought to know in case they are going to deal with Seasonaires or David Parr.
It seems that the company seasonaires given half the chance will try to ignore all forms of contact from you when your asking for your damage deposits back. I have seen a few threads regarding this same problem.
It's been a year now since me and my friend went to Les Arcs but we still haven't had our deposits back after numerous e-mails and phone calls which are just ignored. We're both owed £225 each totalling £450. It seems quite obvious that David Parr who from what i could tell was in charge, has pocketed the money for himself.
From what i know i thought deposit monies must legally be placed in an escrow or client acount and not be touched or used by the holder. Obviously this hasn't happened....
Any advice on what to do about this would be greatly appreciated. |
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Nick7
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Post subject: RE: Seasonaires stealing deposit money
Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 10:01 PM
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First post: Sep 04, 2009
Total posts: 226
Location: Manchester
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| A year? I am not sure how this can drag on for a year. They either give it back, or explain reasons why they are retaining it surely... Failing that, you seek legal advice. Where are they based and are they still in business? |
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jdavies1976
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Post subject: RE: Seasonaires stealing deposit money
Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 10:34 AM
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There are rules for holding deposits on lettings in England and Wales but I'm guessing you rented a place in a ski resort in which case I suspect that the local laws in whichever country you rented in will apply. This used to be common among residential landlords in England which is why they recently changed the law on holding deposits which must now be held in approved schemes. The tactic that worked for me against a landlord at uni was to threaten to report hime to the council as he was on the council's list of approved social housing landlords and so perhaps you might try threatening to report Mr. Parr to the local tourist board and chamber of commerce wherever the accommodation was as he may have some listing with them that they might cancel if they know he's a rogue landlord.
Realistically you'll probably have to write the money off as it will cost more to take legal action than you're owed. |
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YourMum
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 11:12 AM
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First post: Oct 12, 2004
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| hmmm.... this seems familiar, I'm sure others have had a similar experience. I can't remember who or when but if they read this they may be able to help you out. |
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YourMum
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 11:14 AM
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| which is obviously why you submitted the post in the first place. I've got a great talent for stating the bleeding obvious. |
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cantridepete
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 11:15 AM
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First post: Oct 28, 2008
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check your travel insurance, you maybe able to claim back legal expenses.
Everything takes a LONG time in france if you follow the official channels, and if you do, you need to shout LOUD!  |
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TubbyBeaver
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 04:11 PM
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First post: Oct 23, 2008
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Location: Japan
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| this may sound sh1t, but contact the newspapers. Those columns in Sunday papers where they name and shame dodgy dealers......they work. Years ago BT stung me for my mobile phone, cutting it off 1 week after getting it and fobbing me off with stock answers. I got fed up and sent emails off to everyone from the sunday papers to trading standards and probably Santa Claus!! (ok not him) But within 4 days of getting a reply from 2 papers saying they'll investigate I had BT back on the phone giving me all my money back, reimbursing my phone bill for their premium rate "help"line and the reason given.....because the press was involved. For that small amount of money (not small to you and me but small legally) it'd cost more to take to a small claims court and perhaps you'd lose.......get the papers involved and sh1t happens |
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specialman
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 06:15 PM
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First post: Jul 17, 2007
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jsayeruk - maybe just watch out for defamation of character and all that when you're accusing people of pocketing money.
Anyway, that's a sh1t deal having to wait that long - hope you get it sorted  |
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DrSnowboard
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 09:30 PM
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And their reasons for withholding are....?
The state you left the accomodation in was....?
(I have no affiliation to Seasonaires, however I have been a landlord at some point) |
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francium
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 10:18 PM
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| If you want to take them to small claims I think it will only cost you 30 quid, and if they don't bother showing you win automatically. However to get the money you then have to send the bailiffs in which costs you more money. |
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BigDanno
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 11:42 PM
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First post: Feb 28, 2011
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| Remember if you take him to small claims he can request relocation to a court near his location so find out where his company is registered first |
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Embrace the Chaos !!
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Posted: Jan 11, 2012 - 09:35 AM
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First post: May 18, 2011
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Location: Les Coches
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Hi,
The first step is to find out where the company is registered. If they are a UK company they took your money in pounds sterling in the UK then they are obliged to follow UK law regarding the handling of that money, including protecting deposits.
If they are French registered, took your money in euros and submit accounts in euros then they have to follow french law regarding deposits etc.
Hope that helps . . . and good luck! |
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jdavies1976
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Posted: Jan 11, 2012 - 10:14 AM
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First post: Jan 21, 2011
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| I suspect that regardless of where they are registered and what currency they took your money in the location of the property will determine which law applies to how the deposit is held. Also check your contract as you may have agreed in there that any legal proceedings will be held in a specified jurisdiction. |
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jdavies1976
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Posted: Jan 11, 2012 - 10:16 AM
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First post: Jan 21, 2011
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| P.S. Look at Companies House but many of these scam merchants use the trick of putting one company name on their documents but listing the company number of another company elsewhere in the paper work so that when you try and take action against the named company they say you need to contact the company whose company number is on the paper work and vice versa so it's almost impossible to prove which company you actually contracted with! They know all the tricks that make it hard and time consuming to pursue them knowing that most people will lose patience and write off what they're owed. |
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jsayersuk
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Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 09:40 PM
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First post: Jan 09, 2012
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Thank you everyone for your responses.
There is no reason why it has not been returned to me. I was e-mailed in april saying i'd get it back. The accommodation was left in good order and the end of season report bill including cleaning was £6 per person per month stayed.
As far as i am aware they are still trading but under a different name. Last time i phoned was a couple of months ago and someone actually answered, the guy said "[NAME REMOVED]" i think. That was on the same seasonaires main phone number though.
I paid all the money for accommodation and deposit in euros so i'm assuming its set up abroad. The website, although its still working is well out of date and has no bookings taken as far as i can see. There's no address or anything i can find on there, just an e-mail address that i get no responses from
I'm not entirely sure what i'm going to do yet because like you say going through the courts will cost me more than the deposit. I'll look into the insurance i took out though, hopefully i still have the papers somewhere! Going to see if i can contact some organisations that can help, maybe trading standards.
The chances of me getting it back now are pretty slim but it's the principle more than anything!!!! Someone has it....
I'll keep you updated if I get anywhere with it.
Thanks again. |
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