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Post subject: Attack banana or Goliath ?  PostPosted: Dec 25, 2011 - 03:29 PM



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Ok, so was originally looking at buying a second hand Goliath to take away with me this year but have come to the conclusion I'm probably best to just go new and hang on to it for a few years. I'm currently using a burton bullet and have only been boarding a year or 2 with a couple of holidays under my belt and many hours in the local fridge. I wanted something t help bring me on and had heard good things about the bataleon Goliath. I had my mind set on purchasing one and having now decided to buy a new one I was going to go and demo one at tamworth next week. Whilst shopping for new goggles the other day I got talking to a couple of guys who work in two seasons who were saying that the Goliath was ok but not entirely as great as TSA were making out and suggested a lib tech. So now I'm really stuck.. . . . . Basically I wondered what board everyone would suggest for all mountain riding with the best design to aid me with my progression. Basically stiffness, edge to edge transitions and weather the attack bananas serrated edges will help with avoiding catching edges like the Goliath does ? I'm 6ft and around 15 stone
 
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Post subject: RE: Attack banana or Goliath ?  PostPosted: Dec 25, 2011 - 04:25 PM



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If you want to hang onto your board for a few years, maybe dont buy a libtech, they are built to perform not to last. That said the base on my mates jamie lynn c2 nana is rock hard compared to alot of other bases. but the tips do suffer damage really easily.
 
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Post subject: RE: Attack banana or Goliath ?  PostPosted: Dec 25, 2011 - 04:37 PM



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There is absolutely no similarity between the two boards you have mentioned, its like trying to choose which you should buy a scooter or a mini. I wouldn't buy either without riding them as theyre not 'normal' boards

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Post subject: Re: RE: Attack banana or Goliath ?  PostPosted: Dec 25, 2011 - 06:13 PM



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227angrydonkeys wrote:
If you want to hang onto your board for a few years, maybe dont buy a libtech, they are built to perform not to last. That said the base on my mates jamie lynn c2 nana is rock hard compared to alot of other bases. but the tips do suffer damage really easily.

Any ideas on how they are for a biginner/intermediate. There is no where around here to test ride an attack only the Goliath and I'm looking for something to help me progress with skills and confidence give that I've already bailed n broken wrist in the past....... Are the lib edges going to catch more easily than the tbt edges
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Attack banana or Goliath ?  PostPosted: Dec 25, 2011 - 07:02 PM



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Bataleon's TBT raised edges make it less easy to catch an edge. Goliath is camber.

Lib Tech' Magnetraction serrated edges dig the snow/ice more deeply. Attack Banana is rocker.

They are very different. I was looking for a new boards and was considering both. I got to try the Bataleon Evil Twin but didn't get to try the Lib Tech which quite a bit more expensive. I was initially seduced by the ET but went for another board after several demo's.

Another thread about Bataleon and my demoing account here:
http://www.snowboardclub.co.uk/PNphpBB2 ... art-0.html

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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Attack banana or Goliath ?  PostPosted: Dec 25, 2011 - 07:22 PM



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Cheers for that I'll check it out. I was aware that one was a camber and one was a rocker but having to spoken to someone who was originally going for a tbt they had explained that they found it very un balanced from a heel to toe edge and suggested a rocker. She ended up with a lib over a goliath. Like I said my mind was set on the ggoliath until this conversation the other day and now I'm a little twitchy about it. Also read that the Goliath can be a bit sketchy at speeds but then again my mate has said the same about his attack ?????
 
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Some people don't half talk sh1te on here. In fact its why I don't post regularly these days, but its the holidays and TVs crappy and the in laws are doing my head in.

Lib Tech boards last better than most. I've put about 100 days of hard riding(mostly rails) into a MC Kink over last few years and its as solid as new still. My buddies Gnu and his Jamie Lynn have lasted even longer.

In fact even though I really enjoyed riding the Bataleon Evil Twin I got rid because the base was so slow and it started falling apart in less than 2 seasons. TBT is really good fun though. Would have another one in future if they get some better bases sorted out. But just bought a Box Scratcher.

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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Attack banana or Goliath ?  PostPosted: Dec 25, 2011 - 07:50 PM



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You defo need to try the Goliath for yourself. I liked TBT on my first outing but turned against it later. Maybe it boils down to what you value most in a board: forgiveness (no edge catching) vs responsiveness aand edge gripping (unforgiving). I found TBT offputting when flatbasing because a feeling of vagueness (you get used to it apparently according to fans!) but really felt good when landing jumps!

Also try other boards: Head the Evil Kers (flat rocker twin) which I bought, Artec Gabe Taylor (camber, directional twin - quite like it responsive), Salomon Grip (directional twin flat rocker - demo felt too big for me).

If you want magnetraction Gnu park Pickle is a cheaper version of the Lib tech skate banana.

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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Attack banana or Goliath ?  PostPosted: Dec 25, 2011 - 07:54 PM



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dewei wrote:


If you want magnetraction Gnu park Pickle is a cheaper version of the Lib tech skate banana.

Do TSA demo these ?
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Attack banana or Goliath ?  PostPosted: Dec 25, 2011 - 08:05 PM



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Both Gnus and Lib techs are made by Mervin. Snow+Rock do them, so the place to try them would be at Hemel and Chilli Factore. i was to try a mate's gnu but ran out of time!

Mervin boards do not have a metal edge round the nose and tail area (fact). This may the reason that people say they do not last (opinion). I personally don't know but I would hope that the extra £100-150 for gnu and Lib Tech is for better quality.

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Critch wrote:

In fact even though I really enjoyed riding the Bataleon Evil Twin I got rid because the base was so slow and it started falling apart in less than 2 seasons.


The 11/12 ET is now faster with a sintered base. When I went to Snow+Rock, the salesman rubbished the Bataleons as having poor quality.

It's very difficult to know who or what to believe. I take everything with a huge pinch of salt!

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I found the bonding, topsheet material and tips to be very fragile on my gnu and on the libtechs we have sold. That said, the base was impenetrable on the gnu. but the tips got the hell knocked out of them, so that may be talking sh1t but I can only go on my experience of them. I wouldn't pay full price for one as no snowboard is worth that amount of money in my opinion.
They have all ridden really nicely though.
 
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Critch wrote:
Some people don't half talk sh1te on here. In fact its why I don't post regularly these days, but its the holidays and TVs crappy and the in laws are doing my head in.

Lib Tech boards last better than most. I've put about 100 days of hard riding(mostly rails) into a MC Kink over last few years and its as solid as new still. My buddies Gnu and his Jamie Lynn have lasted even longer.


So because your board and your mates boards lasted well that means that other people who have had different experiences are talking sh1te? Nice one seriously...nice

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dewei wrote:
Critch wrote:

In fact even though I really enjoyed riding the Bataleon Evil Twin I got rid because the base was so slow and it started falling apart in less than 2 seasons.


The 11/12 ET is now faster with a sintered base. When I went to Snow+Rock, the salesman rubbished the Bataleons as having poor quality.

It's very difficult to know who or what to believe. I take everything with a huge pinch of salt!


Be cause they dont sell them possibly....?

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Dec 26, 2011 - 11:09 AM



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I would say that justifying your reasons for posting in a forum would be classed as "talking sh1t" or even boarder line attacking.............
 
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