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Post subject: Using different wax types?
 Posted: Dec 13, 2011 - 10:04 PM
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Hi there
This is probably a daft question, but here goes!
I’m looking at different types of hot wax for various conditions / temps, plus some rub on wax (Zardox notwax) for out on the hill. I was wondering if all waxes can be applied on top of each other in what ever combo suits, or do I need to clean the base before applying a different wax type?
Just want to do what's best for the base......
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Post subject: RE: Using different wax types?
Posted: Dec 13, 2011 - 10:21 PM
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Prepare for some mixed replies
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Generally you should stick to 1 type of wax. If you have existing wax on there, when you go to wax it again, everything melts, some of the older wax will come out the pours, some of the new stuff will go in, so it is suggested you clean the base.
For me personally though, as I have an extruded base (very forgiving, not as fast as a sintered base but can take abuse well) the only base cleaning I do is just a wet cloth to get some of the dirt off and then slap new wax ontop of it, however I use an all temp wax so who knows what's in the pours!
If you're going from a cold temp wax to a warm temp wax though, it would probably be a good idea to give the base a good clean
The joys of alltemp! |
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Post subject: RE: Using different wax types?
Posted: Dec 13, 2011 - 11:34 PM
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| wax on the hill? how fast do you need to go? |
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mark360
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Post subject: RE: Using different wax types?
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 - 08:03 AM
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Thanks Sidget, really appreciate the advice!
the101s, probably not that fast! Thought it might be handy to have in the pocket if those flats start to catch me out, or to use as a quick and easy if base looked a bit dry
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Post subject: RE: Using different wax types?
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 - 08:29 AM
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| Zardox is only of any benefit when the snow is wet, it makes you slower in normal conditions. I use it in >+5 degrees ie when it gets slushy |
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Post subject: RE: Using different wax types?
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 - 09:19 AM
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Zardox is wipe on Teflon, not wax. Does make you go fast though.
The only time I've waxed on the hill is before the Red Bull Home Run at the Brits, where I competed against British Champions, Olympic snowboarders and lost. |
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Post subject: RE: Using different wax types?
Posted: Dec 14, 2011 - 10:08 AM
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Thanks DXRAZOR and dunx for the advice and for setting me straight!
Will stick with alltemp hotwax to start with. Did I read somewhere that a thorough base cleaning with citrus etc every 3 waxings or so is OK so not to make the base too thirsty?
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Posted: Dec 14, 2011 - 10:49 AM
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cleaning the base is personal prefference, although I tend to use the hot wax method where you apply a thin coat of wax and scrap it off while its still hot. Its cheaper and imo better than using the base cleaners.
No reason why you cant use warm or cold wax one day, all temp the next etc, although in practice if your carrying all three your either a ski racer or a bit weird and your mates will take the piss 
I probably wax mine twice a season, i've never really understood people who wax while "on the hill" |
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Posted: Dec 14, 2011 - 11:32 AM
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Get a pack of mixed waxes from Data Wax, look at the weather forecast before you go shred and then stick the appropriate temp wax on. I normally end up with a mix of mid temp and cold wax on.
As for cleaning, do it when your base looks dirty and waxes aren't lasting long. I find using the hot wax method works most of the time but if it gets really filthy (riding indoors usually) then I hot wax, scrape and then use base cleaner before I wax again. Make sure you wipe off the base cleaner with a damp rag before you wax.
As for rub on stuff, don't bother on the hill unless you're racing. I often add a layer of Magic Potion after I've waxed just to give me a little extra oomph. I find Magic Potion lasts longer than Zardoz (and it's more environmentally friendly). |
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Posted: Dec 14, 2011 - 11:49 AM
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| I got some of that magic potion the other day when it was really sticky out. It does work. It also smells foul and judging by the price I reckon it must contain unicorn jizz or some other rarity. |
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Posted: Dec 14, 2011 - 01:34 PM
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Nice one, thanks for all your help guys, most appreciated and I understand it a lot better now
Cheers! |
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Posted: Dec 14, 2011 - 01:49 PM
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| where do you get the magic potion stuff from ? |
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 - 09:26 PM
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Magic potion? Is that the stuff in the spray? A mate had some when we went to ADH and it was brilliant for a quick speed boost if the wax was getting a bit thin. Just remembered about that after reading this thread - might have to get some  |
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 - 09:43 PM
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You can apply wax on top of other wax without issue, clean the base when its dirty, NotWax is fine but only useful for warm wet snow  |
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Posted: Jan 22, 2012 - 05:47 PM
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I use hertel hot sauce and after trying the stuff I advised all my mates to try it let's just say we all use the stuff now and it helps a lot when you get to those flats due to all the stuff that's in the wax to flatten and spread water and create less board to snow friction
This will explain what I'm
On about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlk8KUv7 ... ata_player |
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