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Post subject: No snowboarders at youth olympics?  PostPosted: Dec 13, 2011 - 03:11 PM



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Do we not have some of the most progressive young riders in the sport in the UK? please tell me how other disciplines albeit more "conventional"in the sense of the olympics managed to gain more credibility than our snowboard athletes? Yeah OK i understand we have limited funding etc but manage to have enough sponsorship for other events which are extremely niche even compared to snowboarding in the UK, How did they manage it?

Skiing is also raises questions as we continue to fund skiing slalom etc but yet the results do never justify the funding thus contradicting the whole snowboard stance on funding. I do not understand this mindset of if you can't win there is no point in entering, The whole point of olympics is to enter and represent your country and give it your best, If everybody took this stance there would be no other countries except USA, Austria, Swiss and canada in competition, We are not the only country who lose money from being at the olympics but others still get behind it for what it represents, except us.

As you can tell i am angry at this decision, I am working for the youth olympics right now and it's quite a shock really as i knew that from what i've seen over the last few years we surely have podium potential youth athletes. The young riders also miss the opportunity and experience of a lifetime and if anything even if they walk away without a medal, the experience would have been worth it alone.

I don't know what's going on with our snowboard scene right now, It seems the ski industry is tryna cut it off but reap the rewards from our athletes, we are being too nice, as the saying goes " it was better when you hated us "
 
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Post subject: RE: No snowboarders at youth olympics?  PostPosted: Dec 13, 2011 - 03:16 PM



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that sucks some of the young riders, the likes of becky menday are really darn good.

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Post subject: RE: No snowboarders at youth olympics?  PostPosted: Dec 13, 2011 - 03:25 PM



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Its not fair on them i feel actually really bad as you know not many ppl get to go to the main olympics and this is probably the easier opportunity for the younger ones especially on a competition scale. I know it would have been fun and would have met so many different people from around the world, I think its really sad news.
 
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Post subject: RE: No snowboarders at youth olympics?  PostPosted: Dec 13, 2011 - 03:37 PM



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I'm not a expert but I'm guessing the winter olympic funding works similar to the summer games in the sense that you only get funding if your good or the sport you're in has a history of doing well, hence the reason why we are awesome at cycling, rowing and sailing (do well, pump more money in, do better). It's not the moral way to go about it in my eyes as the gap widens, but it is a better way of ensuring success and subsequently more funding.

Can imagine it's gutting for the guys who've missed out but unfortunately we can't send them all "just for the experience" and we learnt our lesson with Eddie the Eagle.

Also worth mentioning that we're not the only country that don't get behind it for "what it's worth and represents", all countries prioritise their sports, including a split between summer and winter sports. I'm sure Canadian summer athletes (Donovan Bailey aside!) feel the same way about their funding.

Not defending the decision, but can almost see the logic unfortunately. Harsh.
 
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Post subject: RE: No snowboarders at youth olympics?  PostPosted: Dec 13, 2011 - 03:43 PM



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yeh but this is the contradiction, We actually have good youth athletes who if backed would make strong competition, But instead blocked out for skiing and other disciplines which are rarely anymore successful than our snowboarders.


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Post subject: Re: RE: No snowboarders at youth olympics?  PostPosted: Dec 13, 2011 - 03:59 PM



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Ridermon wrote:
yeh but this is the contradiction, We actually have good youth athletes who if backed would make strong competition, But instead blocked out for skiing and other disciplines which are rarely anymore successful as our snowboarders.


I agree, but it's no coincidence that when we do well at a sport, we continue do well over the next few years. Risk management I guess...
 
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Becky Menday has no chance..... cause she's not within the age category.

I am surprised not to see Katie Ormerod up there though.

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were not funding our summer athletes properly at the same time were hosting the thing. Winter sports juniors stand no chance!
 
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siany wrote:
Becky Menday has no chance..... cause she's not within the age category.

I am surprised not to see Katie Ormerod up there though.


yeh, just highlighting the fact that we do have young up and coming talent

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i'm surprised to see the likes of Lewis Courtier-Jones missing from the UK squad...

as it looks like it was qualification via FIS rules...then that may explain the lack of brits qualifying to the 5 ring circus

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Yeah i dont think you understand the qualification process Ridermon. It clearly says why the athletes were selected and what official events they had already competed in to qualify. Our junior snowboarders would have had to have already competed in an FIS events to qualify. Team GB cant just select anyone even if they dont meet the entry requirements.

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I was surprised too as we've had snowboarders there before, so I asked Stu. He said nobody made the criteria.

That may be because of age, not attending FIS qualification events or simply not wanting to attend.

It's also odd that on one hand we have people saying "F*CK FIS" and on the other saying "there's no snowboarders" in the YOG... which is a FIS qualified event.

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agreed dunx..although just because many are saying feck FIS, it doesn't mean that those who want to compete at the olympics are avoiding FIS events.

I'm sure that plenty of big TTR names will be hitting up the minimum amount of qualification events in the run up to the next grown up games....

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It's discraceful! someone needs their ass kicking! or a big snowboard slap to the face. KAPOW! Infact this country's approach to sport as a whole recently is pretty dire, considering we are about to host an olympic games! Olympics should be about sport not bringing in tourists. How can people stand by and watch a sport be excluded? How is that going to make people that practice that sport feel?
 
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SnowHawk01 wrote:
It's discraceful! someone needs their ass kicking! or a big snowboard slap to the face. KAPOW! Infact this country's approach to sport as a whole recently is pretty dire, considering we are about to host an olympic games! Olympics should be about sport not bringing in tourists. How can people stand by and watch a sport be excluded? How is that going to make people that practice that sport feel?


Have you actually read the news article or the above posts? No sport has been excluded, its simply a case that no UK snowboarders met the qualification requirements. Any Olympic event has a minimum qualification process, people have to meet certain requirements and have to have already competed in certain events, if none of our kids have done that then how are they going to qualify?

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