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cantridepete 
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 Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 02:27 PM
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and bolts favorite event was 200m...he's not even the quickest at that any more 
there's always someone else that will go bigger, faster, better..... |
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Trigger85
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Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 02:33 PM
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i agree with you Jake about the next level thing. once someone has accomplished one thing, all it does is open the door for the next stage. if i invented a new trick all that would happen is someone would invert it, then twice and so on. humans being humans are always looking for ways to out do each other, has been going on for 1000's of years. all that will happen is technology will change enabling quintet cab 5400 or something ridiculous using anti gravity base technology or what ever new innovations they come up with
edit: on topic i buy dvds at full price as i like fancy packaging etc. might sound odd to some but im same with games and movies. |
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Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 02:38 PM
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i remember how big the kicker lines were 15 years ago, tiny compared to today  |
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SnowAndrew
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Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 02:40 PM
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Because they can get enough people buying them at that price to make it worthwhile selling them.
I normally only buy one proper Snowboarding DVD each year.
Plus i'll get some free with magazines or download online. |
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Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 03:21 PM
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| yeh but that was then, this is now, I do not think the equipment of the future is going to radically change the way athletes perform unless the board shape was redesigned, If you said that ten years ago then i would have agreed but this was at a time when the top riders were still discovering new tricks, terrain and techniques and the sport was still relatively niche worldwide compared to skiing and skateboarding . If you look at the level of riding right now at the top there isn't many people you can tell apart because the quality is so high, The riders competing are confident with their gear, Obviously they must be to attempt some of the things they do on a regular basis. Infact you picked the perfect guy for an example, Travis pastrana, The fact is, How many people drive a £300,000 rally car over a gap jump just for fun? I'm sure people lucky enough and brave enough will attempt it now, But until everyone starts doing it you cannot say he has done the impossible,whereas in snowboarding its now a global multi billion pound industry and a popular mountain sport which has now been around long enough to reach a peak in standard. |
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Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 03:39 PM
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Trigger85 wrote:
i agree with you Jake about the next level thing. once someone has accomplished one thing, all it does is open the door for the next stage. if i invented a new trick all that would happen is someone would invert it, then twice and so on. humans being humans are always looking for ways to out do each other, has been going on for 1000's of years. all that will happen is technology will change enabling quintet cab 5400 or something ridiculous using anti gravity base technology or what ever new innovations they come up with
edit: on topic i buy dvds at full price as i like fancy packaging etc. might sound odd to some but im same with games and movies.
yeah but nobody is gona do a 5400 without a hovercraft or something lol it would be a completely different sport. What i'm sayin is when you look at tricks, most grabs and spins were reinvented from skateboarding, All the ones possible on a snowboard have been done, The big spins are big now but really if you were going any higher than some of the kickers out their already to get more rotation it would surely mess you up on landing even clean, Same with pipe, And as for freeride, The big guys have been unleashed straight outta some mental asylum forced to watch steep mountains endlessly 24 hours a day taking their revenge with a board, then locked up again until deemed safe to nature. Although i am optimistic for some more sweet movies in the future pushing whats human. |
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Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 03:39 PM
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Rallying has been around longer and it wasn't balls that got him over that gap, it was progression. That could not have been attempted 20 years ago, despite "legendary" cars such as the Quattro and Stratos being around and being thought of as "impossible" to beat. Go back further and the car to beat was a JCW mini and people couldn't believe it one day lost and was no where.
To say that just because it's popular and has more people doing it, doesn't mean its at a peak. Take Football as an example. Most popular and widely played sport on the planet and has been around for donkey's, yet through progression (better training, club infrastructure, lighter balls, lighter boots, better nutrition etc etc) Messi would make George best (who at the time people thought no one would match his talent) look like a muppet, who in turn made Sir Stanley look like a novice.
10 years ago you probably would have said the board shapes are pretty good, yet we now know their not. Who's to say that in 10 years time these boards will be obsolete? No sport can reach it's physical and technological peak in circa 30 years, especially when the first few years the sport wasn't seen as "mainstream" |
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Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 03:43 PM
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Ridermon wrote:
yeah but nobody is gona do a 5400 without a hovercraft or something lol it would be a completely different sport. What i'm sayin is when you look at tricks, most grabs and spins were reinvented from skateboarding, All the ones THAT ARE CURRENTLY possible on a snowboard have been done
fixed that for ya [/b] |
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Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 04:11 PM
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JakeDurbs wrote:
Rallying has been around longer and it wasn't balls that got him over that gap, it was progression. That could not have been attempted 20 years ago, despite "legendary" cars such as the Quattro and Stratos being around and being thought of as "impossible" to beat. Go back further and the car to beat was a JCW mini and people couldn't believe it one day lost and was no where.
To say that just because it's popular and has more people doing it, doesn't mean its at a peak. Take Football as an example. Most popular and widely played sport on the planet and has been around for donkey's, yet through progression (better training, club infrastructure, lighter balls, lighter boots, better nutrition etc etc) Messi would make George best (who at the time people thought no one would match his talent) look like a muppet, who in turn made Sir Stanley look like a novice.
10 years ago you probably would have said the board shapes are pretty good, yet we now know their not. Who's to say that in 10 years time these boards will be obsolete? No sport can reach it's physical and technological peak in circa 30 years, especially when the first few years the sport wasn't seen as "mainstream"
I am not saying they won't change or will not be as good if not better, I am saying that i doubt this will make a huge impact in the current state of the sport today being at the level it is already at. It might not have reached its technological peak but it has surely reached an industry standard in design and function. And who is to say no sport can't peak just because none has ever before? what you are forgetting is that when i say peak, I am talking about with pro's and tricks, Most pro's travel together, compete together, learn tricks together,these are the elite the highest standard so obviously the only way of judging the current level is by watching these competitions and videos etc. Like i said, you have to consider the actual laws of physics and what is safe even at crazy high levels and i think it's got to level of where it's like, what can they do next? we knew about the triple and the 1440 which were laid down this year and it was a big step forward but was always technically possible,just insane, About 4 months later and nearly all the elite have got it down.
ps, if messi went back to the past he would get constantly broke down and injured so he would be useless, Also he would never get an open run in at goal as xavi and iniesta wouldn't have been born haha |
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Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 05:04 PM
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Ridermon wrote:
Like i said, you have to consider the actual laws of physics and what is safe even at crazy high levels and i think it's got to level of where it's like, what can they do next? we knew about the triple and the 1440 which were laid down this year and it was a big step forward but was always technically possible,just insane, About 4 months later and nearly all the elite have got it down.
You're kinda contradicting yourself. You're saying that the sport has reached its peak, and that you can't push things any further.
But then at the same time you're saying that triples and 1440s were done this year for the first time, and now everyone else can do them.
Next people are gonna be doing 1620s and quads. And they'll look rubbish, and kill the soul of snowboarding, but that's another story. |
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Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 05:28 PM
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| I don.t know about the later arguments but I would have been gutted if I had bought "The Art Of Flight " for £30 of my money. It's good but not that good. |
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Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 06:40 PM
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I tend to agree with you, all snowboard films should be sold in plastic films for £5, but with the option of having the glossy-extra's edition to order online only, so the companies only print as many as they sell to cut losses.
That would stop me from watching them online if i REALLY wanted to see one. |
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Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 08:57 PM
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R1ch
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Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 12:09 AM
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I think the 'Art of Flight' is a bad example, because it's also got the Bluray version with it, which isn't the case for most films. So that explains why it costs a little more than others do.
I remember buying a lot of films when I did my two seasons in Canada and they were certainly cheaper. Exchange Rate and Distribution aside, I would think that prices in general have just gone up now. Also to bare in mind was that it was pre-YouTube, so there was little in the way of snowboarding clips online.
The future of Snow films doesn't seem to be about Physical Discs anymore, but online distribution. I've got the latest two Absinthe Films through iTunes. In the past I either bought them, or got them free.
I'd also add that magazine giveaways aren't as big anymore.
Whitelines used to give away past season releases by big names, such as Absinthe, but the ones they've been giving away the past couple of years have all been by quite small companies, and I use that term very loosely. |
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