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Post subject: Another poor innocent victim of the law..
 Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 08:41 AM
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So Amanda Knox was cleared from the murder charge of Meridith Kercher.
Sweet, innocent with that "butter-wouldn't-melt-in-her-mouth" look, hmm I'm not so sure. I mean the false confession of being in the flat and then changing her story in the early stages of the case, the false accusation of that bar owner (her boss), the non-matching alibi from her and her boyfriend, Also why were their phones both switched off between the time of the murder?? Oh and the staged break in?
It's all just a little too suspect I think. Thoughts on a postcard.. |
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Post subject: RE: Another poor innocent victim of the law..
Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 08:59 AM
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I kind of agree with you. I feel sorry for the Kercher family - it seems that they haven't had the advantage of a massive pr campaign for their daughter, and its them I feel sorry for. It all seems a little convenient to get off on through a loophole of technicalities, whilst the murder has been placed on someone who hasn't had the celebrity treatment like Amanda Knox has and won't be able to afford to get any evidence looked into.
Add to that Knox is now free to head off and cash in with books, interviews, film deals etc etc while the Kercher family is still suffering. |
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Post subject: RE: Another poor innocent victim of the law..
Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 09:50 AM
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Not for me to judge as I don't hold all (if any) of the facts but although technically a loop hole, from my knowledge you don't have to have DNA evidence to convict someone and if there was enough evidence against them, they could have used that. Without the shaky DNA, they didn't have enough evidence (supposedly) to prove they did murder her so they were released, the way it should be (innocent until guilty an all).
The one thing that is staggering is how the story has been reported around the world. Britain definitely went for the "Foxy Knoxy" angle with lots of accusations based on random photos from social networking sites (we've all got them!) and "sources close to Amanda". Whereas the Americans have always maintained that it is a case of wrongful imprisonment and (for once) have been a lot less sensationalist than our "humble" media! Outside of Perguia the Italians didn't really care, and treated it almost as a foreign case that is happening on their shores.
I'll admit that there are questions that need to be answered, but with the opinion we have been fed of Knox, rightly or wrongly, the majority of the public will never accept her as innocent as we know her to be an evil, sex obsessed, party orientated temptress. |
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Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 10:02 AM
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She didnt get off on a technicality or a loophole, she got off because the evidence against her was proven in a court of law to be either unsafe, techincaly compromised or in some cases downright faked. You only need an allibi to counter the prosecutions evidence, if that evidence is proven scientifically to be unusable then the need for an alibi is negated. Theres no room for personal feelings, ideas that things dont add up or thinking someone looks a bit shifty, jurys work on facts of law.
Ive done jury service before on a cases of a man accused of abusing his children, now every one of the jury thought he was a scum bag, we all thought something weird was going on in the family and none of the stories added up. But there was no factual evidence of anything he was accused of, as a juror you are instructed on the points of law, and those points of law are that you cannot convict someone on your own personal feelings, you cant convict them because you dont like them, because you think they're a bad person, you cant convict them because of anything other than evidence. Because of this every single one of us said not guilty. Thinking someone is a bit dodgy, not trusting their story and thinking that things dont add up isn't enough in the eyes of the law to convict someone of anything, let alone murder.
Anyone who feels she was guilty is doing so because of the disgusting way the tabloid media portrayed her before she was even found guilty, not based on any legal fact. |
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Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 10:06 AM
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Trial by media...
Who are we to say that someone is guilty or not if we haven't heard all the evidence. The way it works in any good legal system is that if there is a shred of doubt then someone can't be convicted. |
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Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 10:18 AM
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| I think my main feeling is sympathy for the Kercher family - they're not gonna get any of the adulation and money poured on them that the Know family already have done. If we were only allowed to comment on things that we knew every single detail of, there wouldn't be much said on here would there! |
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Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 10:27 AM
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| You need to remember this girl has been in prison for 4 years for a crime that according to the law she shouldn't have been convicted of. She's also be ripped to bits by the media, had every single part of her private life destroyed. Now obviously the family of the dead girl have suffered hugely and priority of sympathy should be with them, but thats not Knox fault, this has been proven. Pretty much every legal expert around the world who has been interviewed about this case agreed that she should never have been convicted. |
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Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 10:28 AM
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I think there are two issues here:
Was she demonstrated as guily by legal process?
No.
Is she a person of questionable character - difficult to tell. Without the media spin we would know very little if anything about Amanda Knox and I trust the media about as far as i could throw them.
I don't think being a bit dodgy is enough to convict someone, if it was half of the folks on here would be doing a life stretch in wandsworth 
Before you criticise them for selling their story have a think about how many places would employ them after what has happened. Innocent in a court of law should really mean they can move on with their lives but it never does. |
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Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 10:30 AM
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Sympathy has to go to both sides as one girl has had her life taken and the other has had her life ruined, falsely.
No amount of money will ever make the ordeal of either party any less upsetting. I know that if I wrongly spent 4 years in a foreign jail and had the world's press drag my name and reputation through the mud, a couple of interviews and book deals wouldn't really make up for that. Especially when you consider your job prospects will probably be limited over the next few years and the majority of people will always see you as guilty. |
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Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 10:32 AM
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| if i'd had four years of my life and my ability to lead a normal life afterwards ripped from me for something i didn't do then id expect some sort of compensation for it. I'd go and sell my story too, hell i'd never be able to get a normal job because of the medias portrayal of me so what else am i supposed to do? |
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Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 10:37 AM
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| About time she was acquitted! It was a typical shoddy Italian trial from the very beginning |
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Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 11:12 AM
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What I find odd, and it's not just this case its nearly every aquittal you here about is the fact that when someone is acquitted that is it. They are in the eyes of nearly everyone, including the press, stone cold not guilty.
I don't see it as Black and White as that. Just because they have been found not guilty doesn't mean they are, it just means the may not have good enough evidence to pin them down.
I wonder how many people do you see on the news outside appeal courts cheering with their family and supporters popping champagne actually ARE guilty! |
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Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 11:41 AM
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one very important thing here everyone has missed is that she isn't going to be able to get her leg over with many guys now! even though she is innocent, knowing that she was accused of sliting someone throat whilst "between sheets" will always be there. i do feel sorry for her as i (kinda) know how she feels as i was locked up in Florida for 3 days for allegedly charging at a police officer, however when cctv came out that i had infact taken only 1 fidgeting step AWAY from the officer the charges where dropped i was given bail money back and that's it. apparently, or so the law says. now, even though im innocent and never was charged with anything, only arrested, i will struggle to get into the US and it nearly stopped me getting my security clearence for work. so i totally understand how she must feel but on a lesser extent. still as someone pointed out innocent should mean innocent but it rarely does
thoughts go out to Merediths family as this means her killer is still out there |
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Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 11:58 AM
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Trigger85 wrote:
thoughts go out to Merediths family as this means her killer is still out there
Possibly - there is someone else in jail serving a sentence for her murder... |
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Posted: Oct 04, 2011 - 12:16 PM
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| As others have stated, we only know what our media wanted us to know, she's been found innocent, so thats that. The media have a strong power, the power to persuade people that someone who could quite rightly be innocent, can be made to look as guilty as a guilty thing. If theres one thing that annoys me, its being blamed for something that I haven't done. If I was her, I'd sue the papers for perverting the cause of justice by slandering her. |
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