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DanFellOver 
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Post subject: Backside 180 woes
 Posted: Sep 06, 2011 - 12:07 PM
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First post: Sep 06, 2011
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Hi all, I had a read through the back 180 faq, but I'm still struggling with this. Last night was my first time trying them and it didn't go well. I'm landing FS 180s off small kickers/on the flat but BS is just not happening.
I'm trying to do them cutting across the slope sharp on my toe edge - I can't get any pop off the tail without the board slipping out. I end up having to jump straight up which feels clumsy, and when I land I stop moving completely, no matter how fast it feels I was going. I've been told the rotation was fine and I'm happy riding switch.
Are there any other tips for learning this, or should I just keep doing what I'm doing until it starts to feel right? Should I be keeping my board flatter, rather than cutting across the slope? Next week I'll be trying it switch instead (I tried a couple last night, but after 3hrs I was having problems working out which way round switch was...) - but I'd like to be able to do both and I'm not too sure on the normal order of progression.
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cantridepete
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Posted: Sep 06, 2011 - 12:54 PM
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First post: Oct 28, 2008
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Location: Haute Savoie
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dont worry so much about popping of your tail, just give a little jump and look back over your shoulder.
if your doing them going accross the slope you will have to engage an edge naturally or your'll slide, but you can do them of a flat base.
if your stopping when you land its because your either not rotating the full 180 or your just not carrying enough speed.
its a blind landing so make sure your looking back the way you've come on landing and hold it until your stable. You dont want to land it and revert back round to regular...it looks bad  |
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DanFellOver
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Posted: Sep 09, 2011 - 10:19 AM
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| Thanks for the feedback, will give it a try! |
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touch.vinyl
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Posted: Sep 13, 2011 - 09:50 AM
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You said 'I can't get any pop off the tail without the board slipping out', this sounds like you hadn't set up on your edge well.
You need to make sure your not still sliding when you try popping off your edge. If your still sliding as you try to push of the tail it will just slide. Try it again with the advice above plus your edge engaged in the snow to give you a platform to push from.
Hope that helps two. |
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Kitmatt
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Posted: Sep 22, 2011 - 11:03 AM
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A touch controversial I know, but I actually do FS and BS 180's flat base.
All the rotation comes from your shoulders and head so it shouldn't really matter what edge you are on (or off in my case). You only really need to start employing your edges in spins when you get to 3's or 5's (a friend can spin a 3 off flat base but just winds it up with his shoulders and arms to get the rotation). An edge will make the spin easier to learn but you'll find it harder to progress as it doesn't force you to adopt the right takeoff stance or use your body to generate the rotation, your just relying on your horizontal moments of inertia to get you around.
Just relax, approach the kicker square on and make sure you judge your speed well, if you don't feel comfortable then grab instead on go for it on a run you do feel comfotable on, your better to take your time rather than getting frustrated trying to force it. There is nothing worse than throwing yourself over and over again off a kicker if you don't even get your approach right, you may as well give up as you'll just knacker yourself out and possibly do yourself and injury as well.
When you do get a good appraoch, come off the top of the transition with a little "jump/ pop" but don't try to get loads of air as you won't travel through your stable arc. Turn your head to look behind you, and at the same time rotate your shoulders, your hips will follow naturally (don't try to fight them) and stay looking behind you at your takeoff to stop the spin once you get to 180. As mentioned above, stay looking backwards (or some people prefer down at their feet) once you land to stablise your switch edge and then ride off.
You could try the approach switch and then land natural if you are having problems with the landing but personally this never worked for me.
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sktr4lf
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Posted: Sep 22, 2011 - 12:06 PM
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another vote for flat based 180s here, especially if popping them straight down the slope or onto a rail or off a small kicker.
It takes very little momentum to bring the board round one eighty, bit of upper body swing and your legs and board will follow. |
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kevob
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Posted: Sep 30, 2011 - 09:38 PM
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First post: Jan 02, 2011
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| 180's are just like walking , put your back leg infront of your front |
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