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Post subject: When to switch?  PostPosted: Jul 12, 2011 - 06:01 PM



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I have been riding regularly at Tam since my first lesson in March . I can carve by using the feet to twist the board (I am sure that there are still improvements to be made). I can ollie on the move, tailpress, pop on a very small kicker. I can do 50-50s on a small box and a rail but still trying to sort the landing for the bs boardslide. BS and FS 180s on the traverse are fine but on the kicker they are more miss than hit.
There are so many things that I want to work on! My question is about switch. Early on I decided to learn to ride switch. I can carve switch almost as comfortably as regular. In my last session, I had one attempt to ollie on the move and go on the box for a 50-50 riding switch. Well I could not do it - it felt so awkward! Obviously, I need to spend time and relearn again.
What do you think I should do? Just plough on with learning the basic freestyle tricks regular or pay more attention to more switch riding at this stage?
 
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The sooner you get switch sorted the better , as you will need to once you do 180s of things etc

Percivere with it and it will become almost as natural as your normal riding Very Happy

Pick a quiet times to do it , and start off a shred with it and stick to it , run after run

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Post subject: RE: When to switch?  PostPosted: Jul 12, 2011 - 06:28 PM



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m8, it's almost too open a question as there's far more to learn than just "switch" or "freestyle" - plus, what freestyle? Honestly, without any of us seeing you ride it's tricky to give pointers on where to improve (posture, flex/extension, lateral movement, etc)...

at the end of the day, doesn't matter what anyone says, there isn't a "correct" path or anything - just do what you enjoy Wink

might be worth going through tutorial vids like:
Buttered Pretzel as it introduces a LOT which will help with freestyle - counter-rotation, buttering, spinning off a butter, etc.
also check out the Snowboard Addiction vids - if you like your freestyle they're pretty ace at breaking everything down to manageable chunks.

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Post subject: RE: When to switch?  PostPosted: Jul 12, 2011 - 09:07 PM



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I have the Snowboard Addiction Vids and the Doug Fagel ones. They are great. I keep watching them and believe I can really shred until I fall to hard reality with a thud! Embarassed


I probably did not express myself very well with the opening post. Rolling Eyes
I already can now ride switch comfortably.
I have learnt to do ollies, straight air off a small kicker, 50-50s on box and rail regular.
I am almost there with the boardslide but with more work needed with the 180s regular.

My question is not of how to do tricks but rather what is the best strategy?
Do I trying new things regular eg FS boardslide, pipes, all the spins regular? Or should I go and try switch ollies, straight airs, 50-50s on a box 180s etc first before trying any new regular tricks?

Is the best strategy to try a trick switch as soon as you've mastered it regular?

The natural temptation is to try another exciting new trick regular! Razz
 
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Post subject: RE: When to switch?  PostPosted: Jul 12, 2011 - 10:26 PM



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theres no specific list to follow when learning stuff but beung able to hit boxes switch opens up so many options that i think it should be sooner rather than later.

when hitting a box switch most people will naturally move there body towards there natural direction though moving to a backboard of sorts, just try and keep your centre down and your shoulders square and you'll be cool though Smile
 
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I've always been a fan of trying stuff switch straight after nailing them regular. I normally find you can pick it pretty quick, much quicker than first learning it regular, although it's never as tidy.
 
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Thanks for the advice guys.

I need to nail the BS 180 on the kicker. It's bugging me.

Then, I'll turn my full attention to catch up with the switch riding into boxes and kickers...

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i always find backside easier as your spinning off the toes, infact I spin frontside of the toes as well just cos it feels more stable.

just ride in on the toe edge, pop at the lip and look back towards the kicker...easy Very Happy You dont need any prewind and much of a carve, its a pretty straight line in really Smile
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 14, 2011 - 05:12 PM



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Yes, you are right: I am not turning my shoulders and looking at the kicker! I'm telling myself to do it but it does not seem to be happening!

The reason it's bugging me is that a few weeks ago before I went off on holiday, I gave it a try after watching one of the vids. It went so well that a few minutes later that I wasn't sure I actually managed it. Did I really land and ride away switch? Then, I nailed a second time.
After the holiday, I started riding my new board. After 5 sessions, I am still not quite as comfortable and confident as I was on the rental board. I can now do BS180 on the traverse (couldn't before) but not on the kicker! Go and figure it out!

Some people instinctively get it within one or two tries. Others get stuck for quite some time. I have the erratic learning curve!
 
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cantridepete wrote:
i always find backside easier


Just out of interest, given the topic of this thread, do you find that also true for switch? For example do you find switch backside 180s easier than half cabs?
 
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after several beers , ciders and cake .... this thread title is like asking a gay when should i come out lol ...sorry in advance its the beer talking Laughing

IMO too many ppl over think many things in live instead of just going out and doing it , we all can choose our own path , we can be influenced by others , but ultimately we need to do what we want to do Love

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 19, 2011 - 11:51 AM



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winterfunman wrote:

IMO too many ppl over think many things in live instead of just going out and doing it , we all can choose our own path , we can be influenced by others , but ultimately we need to do what we want to do Love


Hehe. Sort of agree with that.
When I am off the snowboard, I can't help thinking how to get back on the slope as soon as possible without pissing my wife off and also what new things to try.
When I am on the snowboard, I tend to forget the plans and do what I feel is fun.
 
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NickE wrote:
cantridepete wrote:
i always find backside easier


Just out of interest, given the topic of this thread, do you find that also true for switch? For example do you find switch backside 180s easier than half cabs?


no, i find switch frontside easier, probably because its essentially the same spin as regular backside.

switch backside is a bitch, cant get past 1's Mad

some people are just weird though....siany who posts on here find switch backside her easiest spin Shocked
 
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Going away from frontsides, backsides, rails and kickers I know - but I have to add to this as its taken me years to get it ...

Last week I FINALLY mastered switch. Not onto or off anything - just plain old ridin but it really has taken so long, I was up and down the slope at CFe with a grin on me grid like a monkey in the banana section of Tescos! Very Happy

OK, back to the easiest spins etc ... personally, when ridin normally, I prefer backside - just hope I can now carry this through to my riding all round!

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 19, 2011 - 02:21 PM



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pedderz wrote:
Last week I FINALLY mastered switch.


Well done. Always a great feeling for every new step!

I find my switch riding tends to fluctuate more than the regular side. Last week, I was sleeping poorly, and my switch ride felt awkward and I had a few falls. Yesterday, it felt almost as natural as my regular riding.
 
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