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DarkPand0r 
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Post subject: Some Help With Stance
 Posted: May 10, 2011 - 08:38 AM
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Hmmmm,
So recently I appear to have developed a terrible habit..... and I'm not sure where its come from.
Whilst I'm riding I seem to be naturally rotating my rear leg inwards, instead of the natural outwards whilst riding. This is causing me to rotate my front leg round slightly and twist my rear leg...... Causing some discomfort in my feet.
I've tried forcing myself to ride with my knee in a better position but this is causing a bit of discomfort in my knee, Like its in an unnatural position....
Any tips on how to work on this? Or is it just a case of forcing my knee outwards?
I'm currently riding duck stance with my bindings. |
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 10:19 AM
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To be honest the duck stance is by far the most comfortable and some would argue natural for your posture and stance. Im not sure how wide you have your bindings but i would consider widen it by a hole or 2. My stance i have 2 holes remaining each side and find this the most centred and natural one. People would argue going wide for park but you lose some of the performace and energy from your knees going to far out.
The best thing for you to do is to widen it a little and ride like a begineer doing a few easy runs making sure you have your knees are apart and flexing down and then slowly building up that way. The knees being kept apart is quite important when it comes to the stance and turning of a board.
See how that helps you out dude |
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 10:37 AM
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I was given some very good advice from RTM about binding angles to stop knee pain or worse damage. Always ensure that your feet are aligned to your knees so that they are not twisted.
Best way to do this is to stand on your board in whichever position you want to ride in stance width, body direction etc. Then with anothers help and your knees bent make your feet align to your knees and adjust your binding angles to suit that.
Sorry I've probably explained this very poorly, but this if you understand my ramblings will stop knee pain and hopefully stop your habbit too. |
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 12:36 PM
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if you back leg is twisting inwards then your probably turning your shoulders forward whilst riding, you may be leaning back a little too.....Lots of people do it.
Try to keep your shoulders in line with your board and only turn your head in the direction your riding, and try to lean forwards so your weight is centered!! |
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 12:39 PM
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if your rotating your rear knee inwards i'd say its nothing to do with your binding angles but more your riding stance.
chances are you not standing sideways, your actually rotating your shoulders to face the direction your going. You see a LOT of people doing it so your not alone  |
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 12:41 PM
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Damb that robster, always gotta be first, showing off etc  |
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Jed
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 01:17 PM
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I don't think your stance is the issue unless you're doing something silly like using a 26" stance when you're 5'4". That would be way too wide :p
To fix your knee problem:
You know that balanced position when you're just strapped into your board but not moving anywhere? You want to be in that position with your knees flexed in a nice relaxed position.
Take a nice deep breath, then release it and relax your legs after strapping in. That nice balanced position with your knees bent slightly is what you're after. You want to keep your weight centred in the middle of your board. Stay in that position when you ride.
Now imagine a piece of wood connecting your knees to each other. The only time your rear foot should turn inwards is if you're turning slightly using your front knee, then your rear knee should follow.
When you're riding straight-ish, look with your head, not your shoulder. Imagine a string connecting your leading shoulder to the nose of your board. The only time you want your shoulder not to be in line with your board is if you're turning.
Let me know if that helps 
ps - just so we can rule it out... how wide is your stance and how tall are you? |
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DarkPand0r
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 02:25 PM
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First post: Jan 27, 2011
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These tips look like they could be great help, A guy at the slope (An older gent, Did a few Learning Courses.... Adviced me that my stance was all wrong.... Made me sad!)
I ride with the bindings in the center screw holes with 15, -15. I'm 5ft11 |
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 02:46 PM
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First post: Sep 01, 2008
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ROBster wrote:
if you back leg is twisting inwards then your probably turning your shoulders forward whilst riding, you may be leaning back a little too.....Lots of people do it.
Try to keep your shoulders in line with your board and only turn your head in the direction your riding, and try to lean forwards so your weight is centered!!
^^ This
Try getting a ski pole and holding it behind your back, if you are rotating your shouiders you will see the ski pole move.
An exercise I do to try and stop people rotating their shoulders is take your front arm (the same side as your leading foot) and hold the side of your jacket (the side that is over the tail of your board). The take your other hand, put it behind your back and hold the other side of your jacket (the die over the nose of your board). Ride down like that. You can also think about pushing your knees towards your little toes all the time while you are doing this, it should feel like you have a space hopper between your legs pushing your knees out so you can't straighten your legs.
Good luck! |
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dewei
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 05:13 PM
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DarkPand0r wrote:
Adviced me that my stance was all wrong.... Made me sad!)
Yes, I felt sad and upset last night. Just started riding 2 months ago and have been improving each time. Faster, tighter confident turns. Told I was getting on really well. Last night, I felt I had gone backwards by a month. I felt 'wrong' from the first run. Was it because of a different rental board from what I had the previous 2 weeks? Have I taken bad habits? My weight was on the wrong leg. I was told I was using my upper body. The coach advised me to do basic turns with my hands in the trouser pockets.  |
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 07:52 PM
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m8, don't be upset, we all have off days as it is without the variety of rental gear (saying that, get yourself some well fitting snug boots - bad/sloppy boots could impact your riding more than a different board).
To add to other ppl's advice - if you've been told to put your hands in your pockets (v v bad thing to advise as you need your hands if you fall - just hold the hem of your jacket at each side) then it could possibly suggest you're also swinging your arms all over the shop... Some ppl do this (think it's common with skateboarders learning to snowboard) to try and turn by hucking the body around, instead of foot-steering and getting the board to do the work.
dont worry, you'll get there. |
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 09:19 PM
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 11:16 PM
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dewei wrote:
DarkPand0r wrote:
Adviced me that my stance was all wrong.... Made me sad!)
Yes, I felt sad and upset last night. Just started riding 2 months ago and have been improving each time. Faster, tighter confident turns. Told I was getting on really well. Last night, I felt I had gone backwards by a month. I felt 'wrong' from the first run. Was it because of a different rental board from what I had the previous 2 weeks? Have I taken bad habits? My weight was on the wrong leg. I was told I was using my upper body. The coach advised me to do basic turns with my hands in the trouser pockets.
Yeah don't be worried about that! It can take a long time for these things to click into our brains.
All the guys with awesome style and technique started exactly where you started and they probably have 10 times the days on hill than you do so don't worry! |
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Posted: May 10, 2011 - 11:19 PM
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DarkPand0r wrote:
These tips look like they could be great help, A guy at the slope (An older gent, Did a few Learning Courses.... Adviced me that my stance was all wrong.... Made me sad!)
I ride with the bindings in the center screw holes with 15, -15. I'm 5ft11
Yeah there's nothing really wrong with your binding positions. I'm the same height and ride roughly that, I'd guess your width is about 23-24" which is fine as well.
Just follow all the tips everyone has given you and you'll find your stance will improve a lot. It's all about hammering it in there until your body remembers the right technique by itself. |
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dewei
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Posted: May 11, 2011 - 08:19 AM
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First post: Apr 20, 2011
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I do not want to hijack DarkPand0r but I just want to thank for all the replies. All the comments directed towards DarkPand0r's stance are also very useful to me!
After the initial euphoria of learning snowboarding, I have to accept progress now will be bumpy and continuedly work at. I like reading around and understanding techniques in sport. What does not cease to amaze/upset me is how 'confidence' (or at least my confidence) can be volatile. |
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