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Gazerdood
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Post subject: BASI Level 1 Question
Posted: Apr 28, 2011 - 10:01 PM
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Hi,
A question I know which gets askes many a time but I just need other people views before I undertake.
The usual question, am I good enough to undertake the BASI level 1 instructor course practical side?
Just clear answers or tips please without disputing the reasons for undertaking the course.
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Last edited by Gazerdood on Jun 22, 2011 - 08:51 AM; edited 1 time in total
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Post subject: RE: BASI Level 1 Question
Posted: Apr 28, 2011 - 10:30 PM
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you would Love the course. it will change your riding completely (and for the better) from that little vid clip you look to have a tendency to rear foot steer and a rigid stance with little flex/extention.
the course will resolve these and if your able to absorb the changes and demonstrate some turns in the basi style then there's no reason why you wont pass |
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Post subject: RE: BASI Level 1 Question
Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 12:44 PM
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If you go on the BASI site it shows all info mregards what is needed , more of it is about passing knowledge on and been able to show / describe what people are doing wrong / right
Its not just about riding ...but as mini says it will dramatically improve your own riding , but depends on why you are doing it ( want to go on to teach ?> ) it is sometimes better to have coaching/ lessons from other types of snowboard firms , to make your own riding progress
EG www.snowboardcoach.co.uk progression courses , pre Basi ascessment , freestyle etc
DEFINITION do all the above too
Both hold the highest possible BASI and Int qualifications |
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Gazerdood
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Post subject: RE: BASI Level 1 Question
Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 04:20 PM
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Thanks for the clear and helpful responses. Yes they are some things which I picked up on from watching the video clip of myself it's helpful getting outside advice on the issues on how to resolve them, do you have any tips for this before me undertaking the course?
Winterfunman, I have seen this section on the BASI site, I just wanted an outsiders visual view on it. I am hopeful I will be able to successfully demonstrate these skills.
I would like it for teaching purposes, so learning and improving my own riding is just a bonus really!
Having seen some of your previous posts winterman I have been on the snowboardcoach website and will defiantly undertake some of these courses as well.
Overall thanks guys, I will undertake the course, any tips on stuff to practice/undertake beforehand?
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winterfunman
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Post subject: RE: BASI Level 1 Question
Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 04:22 PM
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Gazerdood
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Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 05:55 PM
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| Shame snowboardcoach don't work at Chill Factore yet though! That would be handy! |
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Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 06:00 PM
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Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 08:09 PM
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As mini said you are back foot steering a little bit, particularly when moving to your toes (watch your back arm come out and your arse stick out).
But it looks steady enough. There were certainly guys worse than you on my course, one passed and one got a partial pass (had to re-do the ridden part of the course).
The key part of the course is being receptive to coaching and changing your style as the coach advises you. Oh and we spent 2 days riding switch for everything...
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Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 08:50 PM
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Winterman, thats what I was thinking, nothing wrong with a bit of competition or working together!
Kieren, thats fantastic feedback thank you I can see what you mean and this in-turn is kicking my rear foot out to back foot steer.
I can understand why they do the switch riding so that you can feel what it feels like to be the pupil again learning from scratch! Thanks for the help! |
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Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 10:11 PM
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Gazerdood wrote:
I can understand why they do the switch riding so that you can feel what it feels like to be the pupil again learning from scratch! Thanks for the help!
sorry, but how is riding switch like being a pupil again? Think you've missed the point... Ultimately the course is to get you to teach ppl, some will be regular others goofy, so you have to be able to ride switch so you can demo to both riding-styles
*edit* thought I'd add this:
as for whether you (or anyone) is good enough... from what I understand if you're happy on reds (so v v happy in CFe) then you're probably ok for lvl1. As long as you're not completely set in your ways and able to take/adapt to instruction then you should be able to improve over the week and be "basi-fied" by the end. By that I mean, be able to experiment with your riding and body-position as told - as far as I understand there's exercised when you try to turn with all weight on rear leg, then all on front leg - so need to be able to shift your body/weight around comfortably to understand differences before refining to the desired style. If you're happy with that then go for the exam m8.
I'm booked in for my lvl1 this summer and intend to do lvl2 this winter, so have been researching, shadowing and taking advice ready for it all. Without going into too much detail, as far as I understand there's almost 2 levels of riding - riding to "basi" and riding to "basi instructor"
basi-riding (afaik) is ultimately riding with body (shoulders) in line with board, minimal arm movement and all board control with legs and feet, front-foot steering and no rear-leg kicking around, flex and extend through turns, etc.
for basi instruction it's just an over-emphasis on the above. stance - knees visibly bent and back upright. extension - obviously extend at the start of turns and compress after. lean - obvious lean forward and back for diagonal side-slip as well as showing weight-transfer with turns. All this is to aid tuition - so your demos are easier to explain/see by having the movement v v obvious... especially when you also use your hands/arms to visualize your feet's movement to explain foot-peddling or to help explain directional-lean with disco-pointing/etc.
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Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 11:15 PM
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Gazerdood
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Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 11:16 PM
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Derek, what I meant by this was to teach you need to also understand the pupils views and see what it is like to be on the other side of the spectrum and be taught. But yes yours is the principle reason I see!
It was a lot to take in but yes I think I understand all that you have said! I should hopefully be able to adapt and be 'basi-fied' and in terms of comfort...I am very comfortable at CFe unless I am obviously trying new and different things to which you should be pushed out of your comfort zone.
Thanks for the advice, where are you undertaking your level 1? |
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Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 11:18 PM
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| Stockport in Manchester mini. I think I have just answered my own question by looking on your location Derek! 13th Jun BASI CFe? |
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Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 11:20 PM
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Gazerdood we are starting "pre instructor training" sessions at chill in may, essentially we will train you (and others) to pass their basi course.
if might be worth you considering doing some of these sessions.
if i read between the lines earlier your not confident riding switch, is that right? if so then get to work on that, as Derek said you will need to be able to teach people both ways. |
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Posted: Apr 29, 2011 - 11:25 PM
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| Next time your in Cfe if i am around come and find me. i am more than happy to ride with people for an hour or so and try to give an honest assessment of their riding. Chill are generally happy as well for people who are about to take their Basi to come and shadow us instructors to learn the art of teaching (which as Derek will agree i hope is completely different from riding) |
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