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Ardkor
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Posted: Feb 09, 2011 - 12:30 PM
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Looking at some of the sizes of on ramps to the rails this morning, why can't we have some small kickers about similar size?
they must have been at least 4 or 5 foot tall, this may be small, but surely anythings better than nothing. |
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Posted: Feb 09, 2011 - 12:31 PM
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| Theyve started putting kickers out at MK |
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Posted: Feb 09, 2011 - 01:38 PM
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Ardkor wrote:
Looking at some of the sizes of on ramps to the rails this morning, why can't we have some small kickers about similar size?
they must have been at least 4 or 5 foot tall, this may be small, but surely anythings better than nothing.
Don't get me started... I'll go and find the right thread to moan. |
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cantridepete
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Posted: Feb 09, 2011 - 03:39 PM
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i've not ridden at mk for a few months now but i was told that the way they were going to get around the no kicker rule was to build bigger kickers or ride on's to the rails
wrong thread though for that really.... |
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charlie
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Posted: Feb 09, 2011 - 03:50 PM
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| I want there to be big f off gap kickers again. They were awesome. |
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Posted: Feb 21, 2011 - 11:18 PM
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Something that helps improve your position in the air is the ollie that you pop as you leave the jump.
If you ollie correctly the motion of popping as you come off the jump should mean both your legs will end up being bent/tucked in the air. Then you should only need to reach an arm down to grab the board and not need to worry about bending your legs. If i were you i'd start with indies first and work your way onto more difficult grabs.
Maybe to get the feel for the ollie, try them on the flat, then as you are riding along.
Also if you pop/ollie off the jump correctly it should leave you flat based whilst in the air, keeping you stable and meaning you wont have to reposition your legs or arms to adjust for balance or landing.
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Posted: Feb 22, 2011 - 01:29 PM
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| hmmm, not sure, does anyone really ollie of a kicker!? Pop of it with both feet yes, but olling of it i'm not so sure.... |
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Posted: Feb 22, 2011 - 01:37 PM
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cantridepete wrote:
hmmm, not sure, does anyone really ollie of a kicker!? Pop of it with both feet yes, but olling of it i'm not so sure....
I usually pop off with both feet as I leave the lip, which because half the board is in mid-air is mechanically similar to a flatland ollie. Still, I consider it different because I'm not swinging my weight backwards to load the tail, I'm keeping my centre of mass relatively central over the board.
I can't do rotations off a kicker yet but have heard popping an ollie doesn't help for stability reasons (???). |
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Posted: Feb 22, 2011 - 08:53 PM
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Start with the 2 foot centered pop tbh - recommending people new to kickers try to ollie is a recipt for disaster as there gonna botch the timing, get all shakey and end up leaning back and knuckling out or landing on their head.
Get the speed and let the kicker do the work... focus on staying balanced and centered thru the air ... and don't bottle it ! |
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cantridepete
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Posted: Feb 23, 2011 - 10:58 AM
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ColdComfort wrote:
Start with the 2 foot centered pop tbh - recommending people new to kickers try to ollie is a recipt for disaster as there gonna botch the timing, get all shakey and end up leaning back and knuckling out or landing on their head.
Get the speed and let the kicker do the work... focus on staying balanced and centered thru the air ... and don't bottle it !
i'm still not sure that anyone should be ollying off a kicker be they pro or beginner. |
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charlie
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Posted: Feb 23, 2011 - 12:42 PM
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| When I ride off a kicker it's definitely more of an ollie than a two footed thing. It's maybe helpful when you're starting out to pop off both feet at the same time but I definitely have more control and my feet come up easier with a small ollie. |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2011 - 12:49 PM
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| It's what the McNab 'Go Snowboard' video recommends too. |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2011 - 02:25 PM
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i'm gona have to say that mcnabs wrong then and if i see him out in town i'll be sure to point that out to him
You certainly dont see many people popping ollies of decent size kickers, it would just put you all out of shape, the thought of hitting a decent size kicker, ollying and trying initiate a rotation would end up with me landing on my head.
You need a good solid fully balanced transition into the kicker, and trying to do that while loading up the tail isnt going to work  |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2011 - 03:07 PM
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| I think what he meant was to basically pop off as your nose leaves the kicker, which in effect means that you're popping off your tail which is akin to ollying. |
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