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winniOfflineNon-member
Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 08, 2011 - 10:45 PM



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Its great Nick is a very good rider. I don't doubt that. And so are plenty of others he refers to on GB. I'm ok myself. I suspect a major difference is that I am not in any way naturally gifted at the sport. So have spent a lot of time (and I mean lots) over the years playing with different setup, equipment, lots of lessons, talked to lots of people trying things out. I can ride all sorts of stuff but I need to concentrate on technique all the time - almost every turn.

I don't offer these suggestions because I want to see people fall and hurt themselves, I post these up because they work (for me at least and others I have ridden with) and because people are looking for ideas/ things to try to help them with a particular situation. I'm not telling them to drill holes in there board, just offering a idea that's free to try.

If you really want to know the guy who ran a board shop in Fieberbrunn (2004) told me about the rear offset trick. He used to be on the design team for Nitro. I tried it on both tt and a freeride boards and found it makes it easier to ride - not necessarily better though.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 08, 2011 - 10:51 PM



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I think it's time to let it go or a MOD lock the thread. This has the potential to go on and on.
 
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Winni, if you prefix your posts with "in my opinion"you will get less grief i think.

your post was full of how you prefer to have your board set up yet it read like it was how they all should be and i think that's what has upset a few people.'

If your ever around the Manchester or the Sheffield areas let me know, i will give you a lesson and i promise that you will pick up a few tips to help with your technique and assist you in making it a little less thought requiring.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 09, 2011 - 07:40 AM



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Moose_Hates_You wrote:
murray888 wrote:
Flatbasing is the only way in a game of Straightline or Gay. Grab your balls, point it down the hill and squeal like a little girl as you approach mach one.


If you don't mind i'm nicking this for a signature!


Gladly!

And Winni, give over - you're talking chop.

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murray888 wrote:
Mattylovesthewindchill wrote:
All the usual stuff, weight centered, shoulders in line with board etc.

The main thing I would say is to try and stay relaxed, the board will always hit lines in the snow and try and move around, you just gotta be confident and not panic.

When I flatboard my edges are banging on stuff all the time, but as long as your shoulder is pointing down the hill and you are loose you can just ride it out.

The more you ride, the more you get used to it, there isn't any shortcuts really.


This a million times. It's got nothing to do with your setup, your angles or your weight. It's got everything to do with your confidence. When riding on a flat base your board WILL catch on bits of snow, but with bent knees, in-line shoulders and a little less worry you'll cruise right through (and pick up a fair old dab of speed too).



I had the same issues when I was picking it up and after a couple of edge catch falls I let it get into my head which is the worst thing ever !!!

DONT LISTEN TO THE VOICES !!!! - they'll make you fall !!!

I found that not thinkin about what I was doing, finding somethin else to concentrate on as I was riding - especially towards the lift lines etc took my mind off whether I was about to face plant again and before you know it, its not an issue anymore !!!

Could be music in ya headphones, could be what the skier in front of you is wearin, but if it helps you relax, then you'll ride a whole lot better !!!

Now I have 99 problems - Riding Switch is one !!!

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 09, 2011 - 08:29 AM



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Moose_Hates_You wrote:
I think it's time to let it go or a MOD lock the thread. This has the potential to go on and on.


I think we all ought to stop arguing the point. Winni has given his advice, and Nick and a number of other people have disagreed with it. It is up to whoever wants advice on straightlining to take the advice or not.

All advice is the posters own thoughts on the matter. As someone once said to me, technique is for skiers Very Happy

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 09, 2011 - 09:29 AM



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calling it "advice" is a bit of a euphamism. I prefer "talking balls".

If I have an opinion on something or can reccomend some technique i'll do it, but it seems winni is just taking his bad technique and peddling it to the masses to make himself feel like the big dog. Unfortunately you've been called on it winni by riders alot more experienced than me.

you're talking rubbish

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 09, 2011 - 09:32 AM



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Right, can we move on!

As I said just now, we've all had our say, lets do something positive an not jus slag off other peoples views please Very Happy

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 09, 2011 - 02:07 PM



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winni wrote:

If you really want to know the guy who ran a cake shop in bradford (2004) told me about the rear offset trick. He used to be on the design team for tupperware.


fixed that for ya Wink

Sorry, couldnt help it, it was the voices in my head telling me to do it:oops:
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 11, 2011 - 11:08 AM



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winni wrote:
nickmotture

You are right - true twins do perform better with a centred stance- as per there design.

But they are 'easier - more forgiving - easier to turn' when the stance is set back a touch - especially at any speed - which flat lining is. It wont hold a turn as well, wont give you the full carve, wont be better in the park/air and wont be better riding switch. It wont ride better but it will ride easier.


so if it wont do anything beeter then whats the point.... your on crack! why take a board and mess it up by setting it up stupidly.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 11, 2011 - 05:32 PM



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I find the best thing for straight lining is a lilo/inflatable ring Very Happy
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 11, 2011 - 09:46 PM



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Nah, a bin bag is way better, and cheaper too! Smile

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 11, 2011 - 11:09 PM



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Does this count? or does it have to come from Burton/Rome/Lib/

http://www.truesnowboards.com/eu/en/shop.htm

Our board range splits into 2 groups:

The Courage and Deviant boards are symmetrical twin tips optimised for freestyle riding but they can still be used on the slopes by setting your bindings back from the centre by one or two positions (20mm or 40mm).

The Freedom, Expression and Fun boards are 'directional' twin tips in that the nose is, typically, 20mm longer than the tail and the normal binding position is offset from the centre position towards the tail by between 20 and 50mm. This optimises the board for riding the slopes but you can still shift the binding position back to the centre for riding in the park if you want.
 
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you've got to admire winnis commitment, even when every single person on both forums thinks they're talking balls the've still got the self confidence to keep going. Shows real commitment.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 12, 2011 - 01:30 PM



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winni wrote:
If you really want to know the guy who ran a board shop in Fieberbrunn (2004) told me about the rear offset trick. He used to be on the design team for Nitro. I tried it on both tt and a freeride boards and found it makes it easier to ride - not necessarily better though.


Can you post a video of you riding with this "back seat" technique so we can understand the error of our ways?

I think you're my granny taking the p***: can you prove me wrong?

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