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Post subject: Straightlining it, nosing it, flat basing it or whatever!
 Posted: Feb 02, 2011 - 11:44 PM
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First post: Oct 17, 2009
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Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria
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Ive been boarding for a year or so now and Ive had two weeks away up to now. Im not a fantastic boarder but I can link turns comfirtably, hold my own on the blues and reds etc and jump the odd kicker without too much drama. Im fairly confident with where Im at right now and feel like Im progressing!
My problem is that if I try to nose it down the hill (like getting a run up to a flattish bit) I dont feel stable. I can feel the back end of the board catching on both sides but mainly the heel side. I feel like I have to twist my rear foot and lean on my toes to be stable.
I ride a burton hero 159, im 12st and 5'9 ish. I have burton cartels centred on the 'reference' marks on my board which uses the channel system. I have the bindings set at +15 -15.
Anyone got any idead as to what I can try to resolve this? Im thinking slightly wider stance and more forward lean but Im guessing!
Any help for a clueless numpty please???
Cheers guys! |
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Posted: Feb 02, 2011 - 11:47 PM
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First post: Apr 20, 2008
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Location: BANSKO ..........Bulgaria
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charlie
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Posted: Feb 02, 2011 - 11:51 PM
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1) You should be on an edge wherever possible.
2) If you have to be on a flat base make sure your weight distribution is equal between your front and back foot. |
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Posted: Feb 02, 2011 - 11:53 PM
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Now thats a little harsh isnt it WFM  lol. Im sure someone could help before he goes that way.
Erm im not entirely sure as im not to clued up, but im sure a wider stance isnt going to help, im sure i heard that a wider stance is more for freestyle, but with piste you need a regular stance or a smaller one (correct me if im wrong).
Have you played about with you angles at all to see if that feels any different. I used to ride duck but played about and ride 12 on the rear foot, maybe you could try that. |
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Mattylovesthewindchill
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Posted: Feb 03, 2011 - 12:05 AM
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All the usual stuff, weight centered, shoulders in line with board etc.
The main thing I would say is to try and stay relaxed, the board will always hit lines in the snow and try and move around, you just gotta be confident and not panic.
When I flatboard my edges are banging on stuff all the time, but as long as your shoulder is pointing down the hill and you are loose you can just ride it out.
The more you ride, the more you get used to it, there isn't any shortcuts really. |
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SnowboardAddiction
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Posted: Feb 03, 2011 - 04:51 AM
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First post: Jan 05, 2011
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Location: Whistler, BC, Canada
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| Weight evenly distributed between both feet. It sounds like you're leaning back too much. |
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Posted: Feb 03, 2011 - 07:26 AM
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First post: Feb 20, 2007
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tis all true - you always wanna stay slightly on one edge. If you're completely flat then you're right, both edges are gonna find lumps and bumps and try and dig in.
Re the stance, a wide stance should be alright - technically it lowers your centre of gravity and should make you more stable. If you're stance is narrower and you're stnading taller because of it your CofG is higher and therefore less stable. But that's not the main issue when straightlining - stay relaxed and on one edge.
And personally I don't think forward lean will help. I've never taken my highbacks from the least forward lean setting, and i do alright  |
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Posted: Feb 03, 2011 - 07:30 AM
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First post: Dec 05, 2005
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Mattylovesthewindchill wrote:
All the usual stuff, weight centered, shoulders in line with board etc.
The main thing I would say is to try and stay relaxed, the board will always hit lines in the snow and try and move around, you just gotta be confident and not panic.
When I flatboard my edges are banging on stuff all the time, but as long as your shoulder is pointing down the hill and you are loose you can just ride it out.
The more you ride, the more you get used to it, there isn't any shortcuts really.
This a million times. It's got nothing to do with your setup, your angles or your weight. It's got everything to do with your confidence. When riding on a flat base your board WILL catch on bits of snow, but with bent knees, in-line shoulders and a little less worry you'll cruise right through (and pick up a fair old dab of speed too). |
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Posted: Feb 03, 2011 - 07:51 AM
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First post: Jan 06, 2011
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murray888 wrote:
Mattylovesthewindchill wrote:
All the usual stuff, weight centered, shoulders in line with board etc.
The main thing I would say is to try and stay relaxed, the board will always hit lines in the snow and try and move around, you just gotta be confident and not panic.
When I flatboard my edges are banging on stuff all the time, but as long as your shoulder is pointing down the hill and you are loose you can just ride it out.
The more you ride, the more you get used to it, there isn't any shortcuts really.
This a million times. It's got nothing to do with your setup, your angles or your weight. It's got everything to do with your confidence. When riding on a flat base your board WILL catch on bits of snow, but with bent knees, in-line shoulders and a little less worry you'll cruise right through (and pick up a fair old dab of speed too).
+1 again.
The keys are relaxing and remembering to keep your knees slightly bent - your knees act as a natural suspension which will allow you to absorb bumps and potential edge catches. Also be confident and attack the slope - if you are not 100% committed then that's usually when a mistake happens. |
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Villers
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Posted: Feb 03, 2011 - 09:04 AM
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First post: Oct 17, 2009
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winterfunman wrote:
Take skiing up man , your a lost cause lol 
Well Im supposed to go Bansko on Monday so I doubt even skis will help. Perhaps some wheels on my board will help with the bare grass on the slopes  ha ha!
Thanks for the advice guys, I'll stick at it and concentrate on my balance! |
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Posted: Feb 03, 2011 - 09:53 AM
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First post: Jan 30, 2005
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| Flatlining on a board is much harder and much scarier than flatlining on skis, so don't feel bad if you struggle initially. Boards are made to be ridden on an edge to tend to be unstable otherwise. Matty's got it right with his advice, and my tip would be to concentrate. It's so easy to catch an edge that you've got to be ready to correct it immediately. Flatlining is really useful for keeping your speed and is definitely something to work on, but dam it can be scary when you pick up pace (i've been riding countless weeks, even raced a bit, and I still brown my trousers when I flaline a steep hill). |
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Posted: Feb 03, 2011 - 10:02 AM
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First post: Sep 04, 2010
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I took a nasty edge a few years back straightlining on a Burton Dominant and knocked myself out (no lid). It frightend the life out of me. I now wear a lid all the time.
After that I looked into getting a Bataleon board and had demo's on the Goliath, I opted for the Jam in the end, I love it, It feels so much more stable going in a straight line. |
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Posted: Feb 03, 2011 - 10:05 AM
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First post: Apr 14, 2010
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I'm a noob too - and I started flatlining (hah) it towards the end of my trips, picking up A LOT more speed than what I was usually comfortable with (to get to the end of the run towards the lift, without having to skate!).
My #1 advice from a newbies perspective: Stay slightly on an edge. It's been mentioned by others here, and it's so true. This seems to cut through the snow better than staying flat. Which also means you'll be cutting through any microbumps along the way, making it a smoother ride I believe?
#2: keep your legs springy. By this I mean loose. You need to be able to comfortably absorb any small bumps etc. Think of cars going over bumps. If they don't absorb the bumps with shocks, you'll have one hell of a horrible bumpy and uncomfortable ride. |
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Posted: Feb 03, 2011 - 10:37 AM
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First post: Oct 15, 2009
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| good advice from most people. Just remember it is bound to be scary but keep your knees bent to absorb any bumps and stuff and I agree that you do need to somewhat be on a edge. Practice makes perfect! |
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homer_213
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Posted: Feb 03, 2011 - 11:15 AM
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First post: Feb 05, 2010
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Im going to have to try this out as im not that confident straightlining it.
Has anyone taken a WWW onto the pistes at all. Im taking my WWW and DC PBJ away and not sure which one to take out first day, as the weapon is softer but i can ride a size smaller, si im guessing it should be ok? |
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