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MaD_BaRoN_HahA 
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Post subject: Thigh Pain using Poma/Tbar
 Posted: Jan 27, 2011 - 05:30 PM
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First post: Jan 24, 2009
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Ok hopefully there isnt a thread on this already (been reading through the section).
When riding pomas/tbars I often get pain on the inside of my thigh on my lead leg near the knee, this varys depending on the Poma (MK im ok for a hr or two, hemel dont have an issue, Nevis Range I was lying on the floor cooling my leg with snow after each lift).
Anyway off to Scotland again soon hopefully and with the number of tows about I was wondering if there was any way to stop this or if its a kit issue.
Reasonably fit with cycling and kayaking but not massiveley so. Riding a burton blunt 158 with Burton Custom (08/09) bindings and ThirtyTwo TM2 boots (same age).
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Post subject: RE: Thigh Pain using Poma/Tbar
Posted: Jan 27, 2011 - 05:44 PM
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| Thigh burn? I get that on the longer Pomas after a while, I have no solution, though some folk say keeping both feet strapped in and switching to fakie/switch halfway up will sort it. I haven't tried that yet cos my switch suck balls. |
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rob_vet69
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Post subject: RE: Thigh Pain using Poma/Tbar
Posted: Jan 27, 2011 - 06:02 PM
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Yeah I feel your pain dude - I get similar thing on long tows or after a few hrs riding the indoor drag lift.
I have found a couple of exercise that have helped however - basically need to work on strengthening your inner thigh as these are what are taking the strain.
Piriformis stretches - you can do these on your floor at home. Do 10 seconds each side repeat for 5 reps each leg.
Adductor/Abductor lifts - I tend to do these in the gym on the machine, don't know of an alternative I am afraid. Do 3 sets of 10 reps.
Squats - can do in the gym or can improvise at home (a broom handle will work but not very heavy - I sometimes do these at home with one of my dogs across my shoulders!!) Do 4 sets of 10 reps, increasing to 4 sets of 15 when get stronger. Increasing number of reps better than increasing weight for improving muscle stamina.
Side planks - do for 30 seconds each side 3 times
It won't totally solve the issue but I have found they have made it more bearable and takes longer before I start to hurt. |
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Polaris
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Post subject: Pain
Posted: Jan 28, 2011 - 01:10 PM
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First post: Apr 22, 2007
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Hey,
I was getting Major pain off lifts from my old boots. They had bedded down and would allow my foot to twist in the boot and major heal lift as I was going up the hill. Heal would lift up and would roll on to the outside of the foot lifting the arch. ended up with major leg cramps and inability to ride.
I got some foot beds with arches in that were slightly thicker than the factory supplied to take up the extra space in the boot. I found no only did it knock my knees right when riding but the lift pain disappeared.
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tortyv
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Post subject: RE: Pain
Posted: Jan 28, 2011 - 01:55 PM
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| Just gotta strengthen the leg muscles! It's likely that it's only hurting/ burning coz your muscles are telling you they can't do it anymore. Maybe do some running/ gym/ karate or whatever helps to build up the strength! |
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warrmr
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Post subject: RE: Pain
Posted: Jan 28, 2011 - 02:48 PM
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On the subject of button lifts does anyone find that they get bruises on the inside of there front leg after a while of using the lift.
I went to my locsal dry slope a few weeks ago and after abotu 1 hour i had to give up as it had bruised up my leg quite bad. (faded after a day or 2 so it wasnt that bad but enough to stop me that day) |
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sherlock
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Post subject: RE: Pain
Posted: Jan 28, 2011 - 04:06 PM
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why ppl are getting these sort of injuries? the only reason i can think of is cos you're holding on too tight/you're too tense on the lift.
if you relax a bit maybe your muscles won't bunch up around the poma and get bruised/cause pain?
(oh dear god. i've just read that back to myself, but i'm gonna post it anyway...) |
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rob_vet69
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Post subject: Re: RE: Pain
Posted: Jan 28, 2011 - 04:22 PM
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sherlock235 wrote:
why ppl are getting these sort of injuries? the only reason i can think of is cos you're holding on too tight/you're too tense on the lift.
if you relax a bit maybe your muscles won't bunch up around the poma and get bruised/cause pain?
(oh dear god. i've just read that back to myself, but i'm gonna post it anyway...)
I think some of it is due to height and stature. I am quite short and squat, with fairly bandy legs so I find the poma really pulls against the inside of my thigh. Even though I get positioned correctly at the start of the lift, I find that at the top of a long lift (especially on stacking fast pomas) the 'button' has almost pulled out from its starting position and occasionaly I have to just hold it with my hands and let it drag me.
I agree with what you are saying about tension though. I had a bad fall off a poma when I was a beginner and tore a knee ligament - definitely helps to stay relaxed. Use one or no hands if poss - really helps this for me. |
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warrmr
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Post subject: Re: RE: Pain
Posted: Jan 28, 2011 - 04:44 PM
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rob_vet69 wrote:
sherlock235 wrote:
why ppl are getting these sort of injuries? the only reason i can think of is cos you're holding on too tight/you're too tense on the lift.
if you relax a bit maybe your muscles won't bunch up around the poma and get bruised/cause pain?
(oh dear god. i've just read that back to myself, but i'm gonna post it anyway...)
I think some of it is due to height and stature. I am quite short and squat, with fairly bandy legs so I find the poma really pulls against the inside of my thigh. Even though I get positioned correctly at the start of the lift, I find that at the top of a long lift (especially on stacking fast pomas) the 'button' has almost pulled out from its starting position and occasionaly I have to just hold it with my hands and let it drag me.
I agree with what you are saying about tension though. I had a bad fall off a poma when I was a beginner and tore a knee ligament - definitely helps to stay relaxed. Use one or no hands if poss - really helps this for me.
Your right about the one hand thing. I find if i dont point my right hand at the tail of the board im rolling back down the hill. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Pain
Posted: Jan 28, 2011 - 05:00 PM
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| May also be a front binding angle issue, with the Poma pulling your knee joint in a direction it simply doesn't want to bend. Try sticking a few more degrees on the front leg (and possibly take a few off the back). |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Pain
Posted: Jan 29, 2011 - 12:33 PM
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Thanks for all the suggestions all, will have to get up the gym! Will either let you know how I go after the trip or someone will find a body somewhere in scotland 1/2 way up a tow  |
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Posted: Mar 16, 2011 - 04:01 PM
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I find a surefire way to completely eliminate thigh burn on any drag lift is to start off with your back foot on your stomp pad during take-off and then as soon as you're moving and stable, simply slide your back foot up the board until it's firmly against the front binding so your legs are together and then lean back slightly so you have equal weight on both your legs. It may feel a little unstable at first but once you're used to it it's a doddle and kind of fun. As you hit steep sections you can lean back even more so that the lift takes your weight and your legs don't have to.
It works for me, try it.
However, you do lose a little directional control so there may be times when you have to monentarily slide your foot back towards the stomp pad to get round turny bits or where the the drag path drops off to one side.
Good luck. |
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Posted: Mar 16, 2011 - 04:25 PM
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Posted: Mar 16, 2011 - 04:56 PM
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i find sticking it behind me rather than between my legs sometimes helps on the long tiresome journeys uphill.
As you say though, if your getting to stage when your having to lie on the floor and cover yourself in snow to cool off, I'd have to disagree with Charlie.
I think its probably past that and the only thing you can do is take the board back to the shop and see if there'll do you a part exchange on some ski's. Maybe something short, around the 100cm length. I think some people call them "blades". |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Thigh Pain using Poma/Tbar
Posted: Mar 16, 2011 - 04:59 PM
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First post: Oct 28, 2008
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rob_vet69 wrote:
Squats - can do in the gym or can improvise at home (a broom handle will work but not very heavy - I sometimes do these at home with one of my dogs across my shoulders
Sorry I just spat coke out all over my laptop, dude you have to post some pictures of that  |
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