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nickmotture 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Tough to get Ins
 Posted: Sep 07, 2010 - 10:25 PM
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First post: Jan 09, 2006
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| this is why i think its silly for so many people to be spending their hard earned cash on doing BASI courses. There are so many people qualified to level 1 and so few jobs about. People sign on to do courses in the hope of becoming an instructor but the chances of this happening are tiny. By all means do a course for fun or to push youre own riding on but its allot of cash when youre very very unlikely to get a job using it. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Tough to get Ins
Posted: Sep 07, 2010 - 10:53 PM
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I agree, some of the companies offering the instructor courses are very dishonest about the students' prospects.
Anyone thinking of training as an instructor should read these threads to learn about just how competitive the industry is before they start.
In my opinion they should make the instructor levels MUCH harder. I know that you don't need to be a brilliant rider to teach beginners, but when there are so many instructors, the bar should move up to make sure that the best teachers and riders get the badges. BASI 2 isn't even that difficult - they should be tougher. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Tough to get Ins
Posted: Sep 10, 2010 - 01:36 PM
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I am BASI Level 2 and work at my local slope on the weekends (dryslope, not dome), and the odd night when called in like last night, which I have done for 3 years now. However demand for lessons this summer has been less than any previous summer, and although lessons are booked in every week, the majority of the time they just get pulled as we have no one on them. My husband who also works there does 2 evening a week and he has had a few more lessons but mainly to his impovers session which is mostly made up of people who learnt last winter. During the season all our scheduled lessons get booked up. We have no full time snowboard instructors and out of all of us at the slope qualified it has only been us two who have had any work since the end of the season. We also have level 1 instructors who are on the books having qualified a year ago, but have never taught as the demand is simply not there. Even last winter those instructors with level 2+ or who have worked there for sometime get given lessons first, so even if you are on the books there is no quarantee of lessons. Tough but then I only teach for the love of it, and not the money, although I suppose it pays for the odd lift pass on the mountain. I was lucky when I qualified the slope was short on instructors so asked me to do the course rather than doing the course and then having to find a place to teach. My proudest moment is a little un I taught who has gone on to surpass me in freestyle makes my chest puff up when I see him in comps or nailing a new trick  |
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Posted: Sep 10, 2010 - 09:33 PM
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I am an employed instructor and I am only qualified to BASI1. I don't pretend to be the best rider in the world but I am committed and constantly strive to do better....and I wouldn't say I am a bad teacher at all!!! (I train hard every week to improve my riding, I am looking to do my BASI2 this season and also Level1 Alpine before the end of 2011.) 18 months ago I was a shocking rider but now I class myself as being pretty decent for someone who hasn't done seasons but that is because I worked hard!
But....I CAN and DO teach people to link turns, I don't need to be a sponsored pro or have my ISIA to be able to teach beginners. I know there is a long road ahead of me and I am constantly getting feedback from other instructors and coaches so I can do the best job I can. I get a lot of praise for my ability to break things down into simple and understandable terms and explaining them well to my clients.
BASI1 has not been a waste of time, I have made the course fees back and more.
Summer is slow for instructors in the UK.....but, I hope come the winter a few more of you will get work.....and I will get some more hours   |
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Posted: Sep 10, 2010 - 10:19 PM
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Well said heth ........ in any sport or industry where you can get any qualification , more often than not ppl are lead to believe there are more golden opputunities than there really are .
I know of many ppl who do the ARDS with a dream of becoming the next hit , in reality , until you get to alot higher level , the money isnt there , therefore it becomes a choice of part time or lifestyle .
I was/ am planning on doing it as a personal goal , nothing else ... as i wont/dont have the time to do itas a job ...plus i spend enough time teaching billies as it is ...and heth you have got better as a person to from this |
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Posted: Sep 11, 2010 - 07:18 AM
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I am looking to do BASI L1 this year and had alot of good advice from people on here both about the course and about my ability. The one thing I have discovered is you need to know your objective to doing the course. If you think its a well paid career path... no. but if like most, you have snow running through your veins then it will be for you. Don't get me wrong as above some do well and some don't and location can play a part in that.
There are lots of courses out there to help you get to where you want to be and some good people on here with the answers to help. |
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Posted: Sep 13, 2010 - 02:22 PM
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[quote="MissBint37"]I am an employed instructor and I am only qualified to BASI1. I don't pretend to be the best rider in the world but I am committed and constantly strive to do better....and I wouldn't say I am a bad teacher at all!!! (I train hard every week to improve my riding, I am looking to do my BASI2 this season and also Level1 Alpine before the end of 2011.) 18 months ago I was a shocking rider but now I class myself as being pretty decent for someone who hasn't done seasons but that is because I worked hard! quote]
I agree 100%. Sometimes the best riders don't make the best instructors. When I did mine, I only passed the personal riding section by the skin of my teeth, the lowest mark in the group. But when it came to the teaching side of things I got the highest mark in my group, with the best rider only just passing the teaching side. The fact I have students who come back and request me is the biggest compliment of all. Even if they are aware I may not be the best rider out of all the instructors. I like to add a sense of fun into my lessons, because lets face it not everybody takes to snowboarding like a duck to water, but if they have had fun while learning and leave with a smile on their face they are more likely to come back. I am often passed students who are getting frustrated and thinking of quiting, but by making it a little less serious they find the enjoyment factor again and keep going. The key is knowing how to adapt your teaching style to suit the individual. Yesterday I was lucky, two people who picked it up mega fast, one is booking on another course with me, and the other has booked a private lesson, so happy days! I have lost count the amount the ex students who are now riding buddies |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Tough to get Instructor jobs in Domes?
Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 04:45 PM
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