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Insano_Deyno
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Post subject: Flatbase 1's
Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 11:40 AM
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Bare with me on this one...I can happily 1 if I'm hitting a roller, kicker, or just shredding across the slope; basically when I'm already on edge. But, if I flat base it and try to 180 I completely fluff it and can't understand if I'm just afraid or if its my technique?
Now I'm thinking about it too much and my shoulders are as stiff as a board (no pun intended) everytime! |
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nickmotture
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Post subject: Re: Flatbase 1's
Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 11:57 AM
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Insano_Deyno wrote:
Bare with me on this one...I can happily 1 if I'm hitting a roller, kicker, or just shredding across the slope; basically when I'm already on edge. But, if I flat base it and try to 180 I completely fluff it and can't understand if I'm just afraid or if its my technique?
Now I'm thinking about it too much and my shoulders are as stiff as a board (no pun intended) everytime!
hmmm its hard to say without seeing what you're doing but the principle is exactly the same on the flat. When you say fluff it whats happening, are you falling backwards? Its can be easier to come of the toe edge and land on the toe end rather than flat based. Stops you reverting round when you land. |
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Insano_Deyno
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Post subject: RE: Re: Flatbase 1
Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 12:02 PM
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By fluff I mean I can't get more than 90 degrees around and my shoulders haven't moved just my lower body! Fortunately I can land so I don't fall.
If I'm stationary I'm fine again can pop a 180 either way. |
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nickmotture
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Post subject: RE: Re: Flatbase 1
Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 12:11 PM
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Insano_Deyno
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Post subject: RE: Re: Flatbase 1
Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 12:15 PM
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I know!!! Whats annoying me is that my best efforts to rotate the top half seem to be falling on deaf ears when I'm flat basing and straight gunning Maybe I just need an entire session dedicated to it. |
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ColdComfort
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Post subject: RE: Re: Flatbase 1
Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 12:17 PM
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I allways spin straight ones from a slight carve as its easier that way as u still got a sound base to pop from and help the rotation.
But still u should be able to spin a one from flat base without problems if you prewind and let it go enough. You can also try counter rotation on flat ones which is usefull for playing on boxes.
Just prewind and let it go let Nick sez and you should be good with a little practice bro. |
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nickmotture
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Flatbase 1
Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 12:21 PM
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Insano_Deyno wrote:
I know!!! Whats annoying me is that my best efforts to rotate the top half seem to be falling on deaf ears when I'm flat basing and straight gunning  Maybe I just need an entire session dedicated to it.
Yeah rather than flat basing it strait down its easier to carve across the slope on a slight edge, that way you take away the fear of the speed the flat base gives you. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Flatbase 1
Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 12:36 PM
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I should not fear it.
I'm alright if im riding an edge (normally heel edge FS 180). Only recently started doing them though so plenty of room for improvement! |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Flatbase 1
Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 07:29 PM
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are you spinning the 1 with a complete flat base, ie with the board not leaving the snow at all or popping it? if your doing it with the board on the snow i do it with a counter rotation the same as a 1 shift on a box, if you popping its important to make sure that your absolutely centred on your board, shoulders parrallel etc when loading your weight onto the board, otherwise your'll put pressure on an edge and it'll all go wrong  |
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Jacey
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Posted: Sep 22, 2010 - 09:26 PM
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Read this discussion with interest.
Similarly I can 180 OK off an edge - either starting from a slight carve to get me going or if it's a gentle slope and I'm not going too fast I can do them fine going straight.
What I'm unsure of from this thread though is why I need to do them off a flat base? Is this something I should be attempting to learn? Is it going to help me learn to do something else later on?
I'd also like to learn to spin a 1 on the snow from a flat base. Assume you do a bit of a nose press and then add a rotation? If cantridepete or anyone else has any tips on how I put that into practise I'd love to hear them. |
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Insano_Deyno
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Posted: Sep 22, 2010 - 09:48 PM
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I'm thinking more on boxes where you wouldnt be on an edge so I've been practicing 1's from a flat base to help with that. Maybe I'm not winding it up enough and using my hips and shoulders as the platform instead of my edge.
No no, I literally just gun straight, pop and 180 (well, about 100 at the mo ) |
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Posted: Sep 23, 2010 - 12:03 PM
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| If your doing it on boxes dude then counter rotation is the way to go - otherwise it becomes real hard to stop the rotation dead - u allways seem to end up over rotating |
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Insano_Deyno
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Posted: Sep 23, 2010 - 12:24 PM
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| By counter rotation you mean spinning up before the rotation in the opposite direction? |
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Posted: Sep 23, 2010 - 01:05 PM
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Posted: Sep 23, 2010 - 02:09 PM
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| Yeah dude - prewind your torso in the opposite directino to what u wanna spin in and then snap back when u pop, so your leg rotate counter to your torso - just jump it out in ure front room - u will get the idea. Or i'll attempt to give u a pro (lol) demo at hte big bang if im not too hungover to move ! |
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