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Post subject: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 28, 2010 - 11:39 AM



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1 Post subject: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 28, 2010 - 11:40 AM



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Weird, doesn't seem to have posted text? Is there a character limit?
That's better, think it's cause I linked to the boards. Sorry Crying or Very sad


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Post subject: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 28, 2010 - 11:46 AM



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Hi everyone, I'm new to the forums just wanted to say Hi and ask a question.
I've been looking to buy a board and I'm torn between 2 models. I'm an almost complete beginner having only done 1 full day of snowboarding in Norway. However I have been surfing for around 9 years and I'm currently riding a 6'4" ...Lost SDII. Not sure if this will have any impact on snowboarding but thought it might be worth mentioning. I'm moving inland to study so want to take up snowboarding. (I'll be about 45 mins from Tamworth Dome)
Anyway, I was looking at the Option Franchise, only found a couple of reviews online but both were positive. I then went to the local snowboarding shop and was recommended a Forum Image. I've seen this board plugged as a beginner board which makes me think that it might not last me long. It's 200 notes in the local shop.
Any help/advice would be muchly appreciated Smile

Cheers,

Paul Very Happy
 
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Post subject: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 28, 2010 - 03:09 PM



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hi m8 and welcome.

loads of "what board" and "help with my 1st board" posts so worth a look. If you want someone to suggest anything you'll have to say your weight (and possibly your height and foot-size if they're abnormal/massive).

There's so many different types of board that work/specialize in different areas, without knowing what type of riding you want to do you could end up with something great, but not suited for you.

If you're close to Tamworth then I'm assuming you're after a board for indoor/uk riding 90% of time (like the majority of us) as such I'ld suggest looking at a park/jib boarb - they're normally softer (more forgiving for mistakes and thus good for beginners) and shorter than an "all-mountain" board and as such are more agile to make the most of the limited space in a dome. As such I'd avoid the possibly slightly cheaper "beginner" boards, just go for a decent park one which should last you a while. I'm sure there's some local snops (probably either a TSA or Snow and Rock there) that will offer a board-test, so might be worth a think - and highly advisable if you end up looking at a reverse-camber board (some ppl love them but others just don't get on with them - bit like marmite)...

from looking at here:
http://www.optionsnowboards.com/default.asp
the Option Franchise is stiff (8/10) and a directional all-mountain board. As such, it could be ace, but wouldn't think it ideal for a beginner. Have to admit I don't surf, so have no idea if that would mean a stiffer board might suit you more. Reviews will generally rate the board according to what it's intended for, so a stiff all-mounting board is likely to be reviewed as such and could be glowing, but whether it's good for a beginner (or an indoor slope) is another story.

There's some great bargains out there atm with it being the end of the season, but at the detriment that stocks are limited so unlikely you'll be able to test the better web-bargains. If you say your bugget then I'm sure some ppl could suggest a few things to look at...

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Post subject: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 28, 2010 - 03:13 PM



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oh, and forgot to mention - before buying anything look into SCUK membership. only £15 and get around 10-15% off some retailers (might not work with sale gear tho), so will pay for itself (and more) straight away Wink

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Post subject: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 28, 2010 - 04:39 PM



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Thanks mate. I'm 5ft 9 and just under 13 stone. Feet are size nine so don't think that would be a problem. Chances are it's going to be mostly indoor UK riding with maybe a trip or two a year overseas. I'm going to Nottingham Uni (Although in Bristol atm) and they have a snowsports club so hopefully I'll get a few trips in. I'd say my budget is around £500 with a bit of flexibility, but need board, bindings and boots. I've already got a decent snowboarding coat, would need some trousers, gloves, safety gear (?) etc but not including those in the budget.
Thanks for your help Smile
 
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Post subject: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 28, 2010 - 05:04 PM



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£500 should get you a decent board and binders. Might be a stretch to get boots in that budget too, not impossible though.

Personally I'd go get your boots first and worry about the board and bindings later down the line when you've got more experience. Plus it will give you that bit of time to save a bit more to cover what you've spent on boots. But it's your money so your choice.

Board wise the Image gets good reviews but like most I'd suggest you go demo a fair few boards and binding combos before you lay out your cash, for a guess I'd say you'll be looking around a 157cm board from your stats. TSA (one at Tamworth and Castleford) will let you do it for free and give you good advice too.

I'm not a fan of Tamworth and for the extra 15 minutes I'd be pushed to go there over Cas, as it's a much more modern, maintained and cheaper fridge IMO.

Anyway, once you've got to Nottingham and experienced the nightlife and girls you'll be pushed for time to ride too Wink. Welcome to the greatest city in Europe Cool.
 
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Post subject: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 28, 2010 - 05:59 PM



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as Sym0n said - 1st thing 1st - buy boots! and not just off a website, goto a shop and get the fitted. Sure, once you know what make and model suits your feet then you can go and shop around the net, but if it's at an independent shop like Subvert/ss20/etc you should support them (in an ideal world). Boots should feel snug, almost to the point that if they were trainers they would be too small so try on LOADS (don't just settle with 1st pair), listen to the shop-assistants and let comfort and support guide you, even if they're bright pink and have rainbows on... With sales I'd think you could get some decent boots around the £130 mark.

I'm a little taller and a good stone more and happy on a 156 in a dome (and on a mountain), so would look at 155's as a starting point.

you can certainly get some good buys atm:
Atomic Pivot 156 - £161
Stepchild Latchkey Ripper 156 - £195
Signal Park 154 - £210
Omatic Boron 157 - £175

just from a quick 5mins looking around

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Post subject: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 29, 2010 - 04:10 AM



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Burton custom ICS 156 with burton custom bindings, Can't go wrong, dont be fooled by what retailers tell you about the ics system aswell, Any burton binding can fit onto this board not just ics that's why it comes with fixtures the other burton bindings work just aswell as the ics bindings, Price wise thou your lookin at about 350 for the board 100 for bindings but you will be able to get it a lil cheaper if you become a member and the retailers have one in stock.
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 29, 2010 - 04:26 AM



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DereksDontRun wrote:
as Sym0n said - 1st thing 1st - buy boots! and not just off a website, goto a shop and get the fitted. Sure, once you know what make and model suits your feet then you can go and shop around the net, but if it's at an independent shop like Subvert/ss20/etc you should support them (in an ideal world). Boots should feel snug, almost to the point that if they were trainers they would be too small so try on LOADS (don't just settle with 1st pair), listen to the shop-assistants and let comfort and support guide you, even if they're bright pink and have rainbows on... With sales I'd think you could get some decent boots around the £130 mark.

I'm a little taller and a good stone more and happy on a 156 in a dome (and on a mountain), so would look at 155's as a starting point.

you can certainly get some good buys atm:
Atomic Pivot 156 - £161
Stepchild Latchkey Ripper 156 - £195
Signal Park 154 - £210
Omatic Boron 157 - £175

just from a quick 5mins looking around


come on man wheres your style lol pink and rainbows on, Anythin 153-158 should be sweet dependin on what your using it for, Another good one is burton Fix, Or mayb a k2 turbo dream ohh v nice, Or if you can wait til september, Some of the new seasons boards look sweett.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 29, 2010 - 07:26 PM



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Cheers for the help folks. Tough decisions to make. Are there any specific brands to avoid? Is there much variation in quality between brands for both boards and bindings?
Thanks again,
Paul
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 29, 2010 - 08:09 PM



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all the boards I listed are well reviewed and worth a look, infact here's another:
Atomic Hatchet 156 - £175. if you can stretch your budget a little more then a K2 WWW, Forum Chillydog, Salomon Sanchez or Capita Stairmaster might be worth a punt (if you can find them) but some might be getting a little too soft for roaring down a piste if you go away with it.

from £500 I thought this:
£130-150 boots
£110-150 - bindings
thus leaves about £200 for a board with possibly a little left for pants, etc.

if you can find yourself the Whiteline's magazine buyer's guide then it might help a little... Was released in Oct tho Sad Basically it's a quick paragraph or 2 about all the main boards released in the season (something like 250 boards were in it this year) - I've got mine within arms reach, so can quote anything for a specific board that you're interested in (don't fancy listing all 250 tho Wink) But, despite being a board test, practically all 250 are glowing - as they even said themselves, there's practically no duffers out there from the main manufacturers.

As for makes, as long as it's a make you see in a shop like TSA, Snow and Rock, SS20.com, etc then it's reliable (just avoid those that can only be found on eBay...). Much like football teams, cars and practically anything, some prefer one make and slag off others while you get the exact argument from someone else for the reverse products. Equally some prefer the big boys (e.g. Burton) while others the underdogs/trendy-alternatives (Capita or Never Summer) and purists occasionally slag off the oldschool ski manufacturers that have moved into boarding (Atomic & Rossignol).

for board reviews I'd suggest looking at http://www.shayboarder.com/ for a start - pretty honest (if you can get past the Never Summer loving). and if you're really struggling then the Good Wood awards might be a good starting point:
http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/08/shays-take-on-the-2010-good-wood.html
basically the main boards of the season are tested by a load of ppl, they pick their favourites and thus a list of what a load of ppl think are "good wood" for the year. Much like my comment about reviews earlier tho, what they think is good might not be ideal for a beginner and/or dome (but those on that list tend to be those that sell well and thus you can probably re-sell easier if you want to get shot of it).

That Atomic Hatchet I linked to in this post is generally regarded a one of the best boards for the price and ideal for a beginner and intermediate rider, so will last a while (just a shame this year's gfx aren't half as good as last Sad)

as for bindings:
Union Contact for £120 pretty good deal that one. Or some Burton Missions are probably around the same price, if a little more.

tbh, Hatchet with those Union bindings could be a good setup - but, like most things, personal opinion doesn't equal fact...

*edit* not wanting to rush any decisions, but in my looking around for stuff I've noticed a LOT of boards/bindings have gone out of stock in the last week or two, so there's a few ppl grabbing the bargains atm. As for waiting to next season the rrp of the hatchet is about £250 and Union Contacts £150, plus inflation, it'll probably be closer to £450 for both and it's under £300 here...

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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 29, 2010 - 08:23 PM



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DereksDontRun wrote:
all the boards I listed are well reviewed and worth a look, infact here's another:
Atomic Hatchet 156 - £175. if you can stretch your budget a little more then a K2 WWW, Forum Chillydog, Salomon Sanchez or Capita Stairmaster might be worth a punt (if you can find them) but some might be getting a little too soft for roaring down a piste if you go away with it.

from £500 I thought this:
£130-150 boots
£110-150 - bindings
thus leaves about £200 for a board with possibly a little left for pants, etc.

if you can find yourself the Whiteline's magazine buyer's guide then it might help a little... Was released in Oct tho Sad Basically it's a quick paragraph or 2 about all the main boards released in the season (something like 250 boards were in it this year) - I've got mine within arms reach, so can quote anything for a specific board that you're interested in (don't fancy listing all 250 tho Wink) But, despite being a board test, practically all 250 are glowing - as they even said themselves, there's practically no duffers out there from the main manufacturers.

As for makes, as long as it's a make you see in a shop like TSA, Snow and Rock, SS20.com, etc then it's reliable (just avoid those that can only be found on eBay...). Much like football teams, cars and practically anything, some prefer one make and slag off others while you get the exact argument from someone else for the reverse products. Equally some prefer the big boys (e.g. Burton) while others the underdogs/trendy-alternatives (Capita or Never Summer) and purists occasionally slag off the oldschool ski manufacturers that have moved into boarding (Atomic & Rossignol).

for board reviews I'd suggest looking at http://www.shayboarder.com/ for a start - pretty honest (if you can get past the Never Summer loving). and if you're really struggling then the Good Wood awards might be a good starting point:
http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/08/shays-take-on-the-2010-good-wood.html
basically the main boards of the season are tested by a load of ppl, they pick their favourites and thus a list of what a load of ppl think are "good wood" for the year. Much like my comment about reviews earlier tho, what they think is good might not be ideal for a beginner and/or dome (but those on that list tend to be those that sell well and thus you can probably re-sell easier if you want to get shot of it).

That Atomic Hatchet I linked to in this post is generally regarded a one of the best boards for the price and ideal for a beginner and intermediate rider, so will last a while (just a shame this year's gfx aren't half as good as last Sad)

as for bindings:
Union Contact for £120 pretty good deal that one.

tbh, Hatchet with those bindings could be a good setup - but, like most things, personal opinion doesn't equal fact...


Thanks, that helps a lot. My budget is flexible, I could probably go up another couple of hundred quid if it would make a difference and mean that I get more enjoyment or lifespan from my kit. I really like the looks of the Burton Custom ICS and with the discount if I join here could get one for just over 300 notes. I'm gonna check out that review site. Thanks again for your help Smile
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Hi everyone, which board?  PostPosted: Mar 29, 2010 - 08:49 PM



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I noticed on the good wood guide that the Artec Gabe Taylor was on the top 10 list. I've found it for 175 USD online, can't weigh up why it's so cheap, any ideas?
 
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Stepchild Latchkey Ripper gets my vote, ive got the Latchkey Sick and love it !
 
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