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Post subject: Board size advice please!!!
 Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 05:58 PM
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Just a quickie.
Ive found a burton lux in 147 for my eldest daughter, but it comes up to eyebrows and she wieghs 54 kg.
Her wieght is perfect for the board but height is too small? what matters more, height or weight?
she'll be using in the snowdomes at least once a month till we go on holiday in jan for a week to flaine.
Was wondering if it ok? as its a bit of a bargain and dont really want to miss out as they got the stillettos to go with it too.
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Post subject: RE: Board size advice please!!!
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 06:54 PM
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| weight...a board doesn't know how tall you are. That being said "up to eyebrows" sounds a bit long, great for serious powder but might be a pig to turn and throw around indoors, there are prob shorter boards in the line that would be perfect for her weight. You pays yer money you take yer chance... |
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snowperson
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Post subject: RE: Board size advice please!!!
Posted: Jul 05, 2009 - 09:17 AM
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Depends how experienced she is.
Too long a board and she may find it harder to turn, too short and it'll stop in wet snow.
Its not just the length, but things like the width (too wide and she may find she can't pressurise the edges enough due to having small feet.)
If the board is too stiff, then she may find it hard to turn, or the side-cut is too straight, or the nose too wide, or has too little torsional flex.
Also the bindings/boots have a big bearing on this.
I tend to set beginners up with a board length that goes from the chin to the nose. But as above thats not the only concerm. Putting a really overweight person on a board based on height alone will result in too much pressure between the board and the snow, and a really slow ride. |
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Tiberius
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Post subject: RE: Board size advice please!!!
Posted: Jul 05, 2009 - 01:26 PM
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Lots of factors for choosing a board. Weight is important, but also what are you going to do with it. Basically the force you put into a board causes it to flax, now combine the constituents of those forces:
1. Weight. More weight, more force
2. Riding style. More aggressive, more force. (i.e. generally more advanced people ride more aggresively)
Sounds complicated, but tbh if your an intermediate rider, then a board will probably be fine as long as it's within the weight recommendations. As above, if you want it for indoors, then get one towards the shorted end, if it's for outdoors, then towards the longer end.
As above, weight is just the roughest guide possible, it's not really that relevant but when you have someone approach the rental counter it's a quick guide to use. |
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Post subject: RE: Board size advice please!!!
Posted: Jul 05, 2009 - 03:24 PM
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Mattylovesthewindchill
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Posted: Jul 24, 2009 - 04:37 PM
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| My advice to you is get the softest board you can, and get one that is at her chin or below. |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2009 - 06:26 PM
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| Age also ...she may grow into it though ?? |
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Posted: Jul 25, 2009 - 11:56 AM
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Mattylovesthewindchill wrote:
My advice to you is get the softest board you can, and get one that is at her chin or below.
Your advice is chock-full of FAIL.  |
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Posted: Jul 25, 2009 - 12:59 PM
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Grill wrote:
Mattylovesthewindchill wrote:
My advice to you is get the softest board you can, and get one that is at her chin or below.
Your advice is chock-full of FAIL.
Please explain, o "wise" one. |
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Grill
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Posted: Jul 25, 2009 - 01:33 PM
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First of all, as has been previously mention, board sizing is impacted by weight, with height being a negligible measure. Second, advising someone to get "the softest board you can" is absolutely ludicrous, especially when you don't know anything about said persons physiology, athleticism, experience, or preferred discipline.
The Lux is an easy and forgiving stick (Burton says Intermediate, but it's just a marginally stiffer Feather). It's not difficult to learn on, and will allow a certain amount of progression as well. Burton gives the weight guide for the 147 as 41-61kg meaning the OP's daughter will slot in quite nicely at 54kg.
Whoever told you how to size a board should be kicked in the taint. |
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Posted: Jul 25, 2009 - 03:56 PM
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First of all, as has been previously mention, board sizing is impacted by weight
Thanks for pointing that out. I am well aware of the marketing bulls.hit that board companies put out when regards to grading a board, beginner intermediate expert etc etc. I also know that these specs are just a guide for the average person. The op states that she is in weight range but the board comes up to her eyebrows, which tells me she is a little heavier than average. As she is riding mostly domes, I am again assuming she is a beginner or low intermediate.
Couple all this, I would suggest something a little shorter than eyebrow length. You remind me of the rental techs sending out the short heavy kids with a board over their heads (not that im saying the op's daughter is one) - how many of those could make toe turns do you think?
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The Lux is an easy and forgiving stick (Burton says Intermediate, but it's just a marginally stiffer Feather).
Seriously, stop reading from that from that spec sheet. Have you learned on one of these boards??
I gave a small piece of advice because I dont have time to write essays every day. Not something I read in a book, something I have learned in the trenches. Keep your sales jargon in the shop. |
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Posted: Jul 25, 2009 - 07:53 PM
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Mattylovesthewindchill wrote:
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First of all, as has been previously mention, board sizing is impacted by weight
Thanks for pointing that out. I am well aware of the marketing bulls.hit that board companies put out when regards to grading a board, beginner intermediate expert etc etc. I also know that these specs are just a guide for the average person. The op states that she is in weight range but the board comes up to her eyebrows, which tells me she is a little heavier than average. As she is riding mostly domes, I am again assuming she is a beginner or low intermediate.
Couple all this, I would suggest something a little shorter than eyebrow length. You remind me of the rental techs sending out the short heavy kids with a board over their heads (not that im saying the op's daughter is one) - how many of those could make toe turns do you think?
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The Lux is an easy and forgiving stick (Burton says Intermediate, but it's just a marginally stiffer Feather).
Seriously, stop reading from that from that spec sheet. Have you learned on one of these boards??
I gave a small piece of advice because I dont have time to write essays every day. Not something I read in a book, something I have learned in the trenches. Keep your sales jargon in the shop.
You serious? Do you really want me to list what "credentials" I have for dispensing this sort of advice? What do you want first, the countless boards I've tested, the countless rentals I've done, the countless thank yous I've had from satisfied customers, the countless people I've taught, etc. Christ I could go on for ages, but I won't because I know that my advice is sound and yours, as I previously stated, is full of fail.
Come on bro, read my previous posts and tell me my advice is sh1t. |
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Posted: Jul 25, 2009 - 09:24 PM
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| No ta, I dont have the time or interest. Im not interested in a pissing contest either. I only wanted to offer a short peice of advice to someone. Im out. |
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Posted: Jul 25, 2009 - 11:06 PM
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| [quote="Mattylovesthewindchill"]
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As she is riding mostly domes, I am again assuming she is a beginner or low intermediate.
Dont know about that.
But would defiantly take you over grill. ha |
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Posted: Jul 26, 2009 - 12:47 AM
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| [quote="Tomahawk"]
Mattylovesthewindchill wrote:
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As she is riding mostly domes, I am again assuming she is a beginner or low intermediate.
Dont know about that.
But would defiantly take you over grill. ha
Agreed, didnt have a lot to work with, so i guessed. |
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