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agreed nick.. none of the the thread was really important.. just normal shreds stating opinions on anothers view of fun...
as seems to of become normal when SB get's mentioned it gets blown out of all proportion, and suddenly everyone starts throwing around threats and abuse...
snowbombing is not for everyone, neither are scuk bashes, Napalm Death Gigs, fat boy slim, the brits or naked walks in private woodland...
people just need to realise that it's only frikin snowboarding (well except snowbombing which only claims to be and is allegidly a front for international aspirin smuggling) and it's two (relatively) anonymous forums on the web ffs!!
and i'm really cross i've had to agree with Nick.... that's twice this year already!!
although i will disagree.... the claims that Dunx has a "proper" job dubious... working on the mod interweb isn't a real job..get down pit lad!!
Beore i start, i will say that there are pretty varied opinions of Snowbombing and i can only elaborate on my personal experience.
2009 was my third time and i think it is hard to beat on many counts. Value for money, excellent atmosphere, excellent resort (empty pistes at Snowbombing), excellent music, access to glacier if the snow is crap. I could go on.
I know some people have had bad experiences but i personally haven`t, nor has anyone who i have met.
Basically, if you love music and the empty pistes i think it is a must.
Unfortunately the music in 2009 wasn`t really my bag and probably why we will give it a miss next year which is a bummer, but its good bits far outweigh its bad bits.
On a final note, i know the organisers do a damn good job and due respect to them, which is why i think its a bit unfair to give the gig overall so much bad PR just because a few nutters turn up, and yes they do, but hey, we have nutters everywhere!
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Doppelganger
Post subject:Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 07:48 PM
First post: Jul 02, 2009
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Hmmmm.......Where to start here...? As a moderator on the SB forum and somebody who has worked at SB and for Outgoing Ski, I feel I should clear some air here. I only have my memory to go by regarding quotes as this thread has been cut somewhat. (my memory sucks)
Let's start with the mysterious bag of pills which are said to have caused some problems on one of the coaches from the UK. It's one of the truths of an event like Snowbombing that there will be people who wish to sneak various substances in, the same as any festival. As coach travel is an option it will be seen as an easier method for such sneaky smugglers to operate, rather than toiling with airport security.
All the staff are aware of this and extra vigilance is the only real way to control it, short of searching everybody which is often the case at most mainstream summer festivals. However, in this one particular case, the suspicous bag was spotted, reported and duly seized at Dover. The customs officers naturally have to do their job and search the bus....Simple as. One person spoils it for the rest, and this can happen on any such journey. I'm just glad it didn't happen on my coach. I'd say it was a job well handled, and certainly was not an "inside job" of any kind.
The penis on the head incident. This was at a private party one evening at the event, and involved many personal friends of mine. Basically one of my mates drew this dick on the other one who had fallen asleep. When he woke he saw red and threw a few punches. He's since been banned from Snowbombing. He's known to have a short fuse, and does not represent the general good natured people who attend.
So let's put this in to perspective........3000+ people, 2 incidents........I'm sure there are more. It's certainly not sufficient to brand the event on that basis.
The simple fact is, that it is a very successful festival. Widely sponsored and backed by professional skiers and boarders, their teams, the media....plus a multitude of other organisations. The good residents of Mayrhofen welcome the event with open arms, during that last week of the year when all has gone quiet. The revenue they generate is gratefully received and very fw complaints are made.
I'm trying to remain as neutral as possible here, and pleased to see that many posters on this thread have stated their honest opinions of SB. They enjoyed it, but "not really their thing". Or some loved it and will go back. In addition, this thread was started by an SCUK regular. Many of SB's forum users are also members here, so if a Snowbombing thread is started, it will obviously entice some of us to log in and join the conversation.
You take Snowbombing as you choose, either a big party, a ski-ing/ boarding holiday with a little clubbing......Or for those with the stamina to survive....Both. Nobody forces people to go, but it books up pretty quick, and offers world class entertainment.
I'm not really in to "forum wars", at the end of the day, we all enjoy the same playground. So lets make the most of it.
I think that's all just for now, I'm happy to ride along with this discussion, providing it stays nice and sweet........Look forward to some replies.
Oh...And I'm a skier, though I can board too....(but goofy) I'll consider myself ousted on both points
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mistermoles
Post subject:Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:05 PM
First post: Mar 03, 2007
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Sorry I got the incident on the bus wrong. I was passing comment on the bus trip from hell I was told about. I flew to the resort as I didn't really fancy the bus journey. It only takes one person on the bus to make it a really bad journey. On the flipside if you take the bus you will make new friends etc and I'm sure loads of people really enjoyed it. I also heard good stuff about the road trip which I failed to mention. Everyone thought the cocoon club in Germany was amazing.
Snowbombing is a good week away, Mayrhofen is a brilliant resort and is definately worth checking out.
Can you take off the comments on your website that I have a deranged mind? Cheers
Stuffe
Post subject:Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:40 PM
First post: Dec 19, 2004
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Location: Rotherham isn't so bad. If you are from Iraq.
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I thought the moderation was required, although the post that really started anything is still there with a couple of hasty "allegedly" insertions. Scrap that one too (it's been proven to be false enough times now) and everything's hunky dory again.
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Doppelganger
Post subject:Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:49 PM
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Are you the culprit of the post that mistermoles would like removing from the SB forum Dan..?
Well I say fair play......Let's negotiate, he seems like a nice chap.
Stuffe
Post subject:Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:04 PM
First post: Dec 19, 2004
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Location: Rotherham isn't so bad. If you are from Iraq.
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I seriously doubt it. But it should be easy to track down, there's only about 5 of us.....
(2 mins later...) aha, it was Conan:
"And as far as I know there was no knob on face incident at all.
Bizarre fabrications from a deranged mind. " - which is sort of true, there wasn't, not on the bus anyway - which is where Conan was.
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First post: Dec 19, 2004
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Location: Rotherham isn't so bad. If you are from Iraq.
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nickmotture wrote:
I think having pen on your face on the bus is the least of your worries. One of the poor girls who used to come on scuk was (ALLEGEDLY) given a package to carry by the official snowbombing rep when she got on the bus only to find out later it was full of pills. Paying to go on holiday and (ALLEGEDLY) being used as a drugs mule, nice.
As this is still there to read, I suppose it is still fair game for comment. The following is a direct quote from Squishy herself:
"I know the coach had to be searched, but if the package hadn't been given to the rep in the first place it wouldn't have been is my point."
So, hopefully for the last time, and as posted by the original complainee.... What happened is that some "random guy" (another quote, from the very first post) gave the rep a package, and he did not take it, and the coach got searched because of it. What categorically did NOT happen, (other than ALLEGEDLY, and pretty much only by Nick) was that an SB official rep tried to use Squishy as a drugs mule.
Seriously, that has to be removed, and never repeated.
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nickmotture
Post subject:Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:33 PM
First post: Jan 09, 2006
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Firstly proven to be untrue is a vague statement, its seems to be one persons word against another, thats not really proof but it is enough to mean that it shouldn't be claimed one way or another without any proof, which is why i partly retracted that statement and added allegedly as i should have done in the first place. Howevere, given that the original thread ran and ran for days on scuk causing a massive argument and slanging matchback and forth without any threats of legal action form either side i didn't really think making an off the cuff remark about it again in jest three years later wouldn't be that much of a big deal. Also if you think that should be deleted completely then maybe the hugely offensive remarks about a the young girl concerned should be deleted form snowbombing forum?
Secondly this all kicked off because someone came over her with the specific intent of causing trouble. You gotta remember that anyone can read your forum so to be writing the kind of stuff some of your lot were, about 'lets go and have a go and see if we can get scuk to bite' is a little childish and antagonistic. Just as you say we have to expect people from snowbombing to come here and comment, you gotta expect people from here to be pretty pissed off and to fight back when your little gang starts a thread taking the piss out of scuk people and scuk in general. Hey ive noticed im getting a right bashing on your forum but i havent registered on there to argue, i mean whats the point other than to make yourself feel big in trying to belittle other people? Someone asked what people though about snowbombing and i said i think its hell on a stick, becaus thats why it sounds like to me. . I also think that Adu Dhabi looks like a sh1t hole and i cant see why anyone wold visit there and if anyone asked me thats the answer i'd give. No i've not been to either place but ive seen enough to know that, so if anyone asked i'll give my opinion. I detest dance music, clubbing, raving, avin it large etc etc etc so obviously i dont need to have been to say i think i sounds sh1t. No one ever said you shouldn't go, its obviously a matter of opinion and depends hugely on what you're into. We do however have the right to say that in our opinion it sounds feck terrible, or great or wicked or whatever. What you shouldnt get is people coming over her and registering with the express and stated intention of causing trouble just because someone thinks your thing is crap. Thats when things go wrong, people fight back, thats natural.
To be honest i dont really care i just take offence at people coming and causing trouble or writing antagonistic and completly rude things about people on their own forum because they cant handle someone having a different opinion to them.
The owners of snowbombing complained ( despite not complaining three years ago when this originally kicked off, which i find rather odd, but thats another story) so the thread was moderated and changed to remove certain elements. I would however possibly make the suggestion that in turn before going off on one at another forum they take a look at their own forum and some of its members attitude and get their own house in order as well.
Quote :> We do however have the right to say that in our opinion it sounds feck terrible, or great or wicked or whatever <:
Are you an appointed spokesperson..?
Tha managing director from Snowbombing, who is friendly with the SCUK bosses complained because your comments were deemed inappropriate and mis-leading for a public forum which may attract attention towards the event.
As we all, in general look forward to sharing the good times in the mountains I'd say that such moderation was present and correct.
I'm still interested in learning why you are so against Snowbombing when you have never experienced it......Surely it can't be on the basis that you read a few comments on a forum..?
nickmotture
Post subject:Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 10:14 PM
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Im talking the royal we, an individual can only give their own opinion, when i say we and our i mean out own personal opinion, obviously! We means anyone can give their own opinion, i really dont think you understood what i was saying at all here.
As i said i hate dance music, clubbing, raving etc etc etc, so en event thats been marketed as 'ibiza on snow' isnt for me, i dont need to have been there to know that. Im not so against it, a thread appeared asking what people though, i along with several others gave an opinion. That would have then been the end of it if people hadn't jumped on this thread looking for an argument. As i also said his complaints were fair enough and it was changed. I am however slightly confused why that is all they're complaining about and why now and not before. Ive just re read the original list of accusations from the original girl and it was pretty comprehensive, from standard of service to basic standards of road safety. Its confused me why none of these were either then or now seemed to be inappropriate and mis-leading. Surely the people in question should be asking for them to be removed as well, or should have done three years ago when they were first alleged. Im not making any accusations here since i wasnt there and its all second hand information. Im just genuinely confused why a suggestions of drugs that was posted off the cuff and removed a few hours later was deemed to be so much more serious than an allergation about basic customer safety on the road thats been sitting on this site for three years for anyone to read? If a massive long list of complaints about various things weren't considered to be inappropriate and have been left online for all this time then can you see why referencing the original case again didn't seen too much of a big deal?
Im talking the royal we, an individual can only give their own opinion, when i say we and our i mean out own personal opinion, obviously! We means anyone can give their own opinion, i really dont think you understood what i was saying at all here.
Oddly enough I didn't
Ok.....So SB is not your cup of tea. Once more this thread was started by an SCUK regular who expressed a genuine interest.
I'm sure that most people can decide for themselves whether or not the festival will appease their tastes without such futile bickerings.
It is a great fun week, and an exciting end to the season.......
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I'd say it was a job well handled, and certainly was not an "inside job" of any kind.
