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Post subject: Designs for future indoor snowboard park
 Posted: May 08, 2008 - 10:13 AM
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I am a keen boarder and architect.
I have a client who wishes to build a purpose built snowboard park on one of two sites in the UK. I am looking to bring in a number of UK sponsored riders to give their opinions and advice to what a new centre needs and how it can differ to the generic indoor slopes which are up and down the country.
Feel free to contact me with any ideas or if you are intersested on having an input in the design of a purpose built snowboard centre.
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Post subject: RE: Designs for future indoor snowboard park
Posted: May 08, 2008 - 10:31 AM
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Post subject: RE: Designs for future indoor snowboard park
Posted: May 08, 2008 - 10:47 AM
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| True - I think looking at the slopes over in Holland and Germany may be a good place to start, cos I believe they've got permanent parks, and largescale snow features - does one of them have a half pipe? |
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Post subject: RE: Designs for future indoor snowboard park
Posted: May 08, 2008 - 10:50 AM
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| I know Landgraaf had one when they opened their second slope, I'm not too sure if it is there all the time though. Landgraaf is certainly a good place to have a look at if you want to know what an indoor slope should be like... |
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Posted: May 08, 2008 - 11:02 AM
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| Make it progression friendly with small medium and large hits all the time and while you are at it how about including a half pipe too! |
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Posted: May 08, 2008 - 11:08 AM
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| You need to work out how to make real snow kickers that don't fall to bits and have decent landings. The prgression friendly thing is a good point too. |
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Posted: May 08, 2008 - 11:17 AM
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UK sponsored riders are not the people to ask as for much of the year they'll be riding abroad. You need to ask the people who will want to use the slope all year round, so please take the suggestions made here as probably the best group of people to ask from a snowboarding perspective at least.
I've worked with the architects for the Snowdonia Gateway project before. I could dig the documents out I did for them if they'd be helpful. |
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Posted: May 08, 2008 - 03:20 PM
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If you can get the kickers right, you have people flooding in. I dont know about others, but I would certainly trade a day MK
for a couple of hours at a snowflex slope with perfect kickers. |
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Posted: May 08, 2008 - 03:28 PM
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| Exactly what Dunx just said, dont ask the pros ask the punters, they're the one who will pay to fill the place day in day out, we are the ones who will be your bread and butter. And besides you dont just want advice form people who are really good riders, you want advice from people who are complete begginers about what they need from a dome too. It might seem better on a press release to mention x y and z pros were involved but its not actually going to help as much as talking to the 'normal folk'. |
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Posted: May 08, 2008 - 11:39 PM
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in my opinion dont aks the punters ask the pros.
punters dont know what is required they just began.
you want input form 100 day+ a year riders who no whats what.
not someone who has been inspired to shred cos of video games. |
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Posted: May 08, 2008 - 11:55 PM
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KICKERS!! - atleast one permanent kickers of atleast an intermediate size, if necessary incorporate groundworks into the snowdome design- that is a solid "tabletop" shape underneath the snow to reduce the amount of snow needed to build up and maintain a kicker
permanent kickers of a half decent size are the one feature most absent from uk snowdomes, and would get the most attention. they manage it over in holland!!
p.s. pls build snowdome in sheffield |
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Posted: May 09, 2008 - 12:00 AM
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| totally agree with whats been said before, there are many snowdomes which cater for punters, with 1metre tabletops (extremely small jumps) built only for two evenings a week, why not do something different and get a bit of attention? i would drive for 2 1/2 hours to ride a good decent sized snow kicker, + i'm sure a lot of other people would too |
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Posted: May 09, 2008 - 05:16 AM
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Posted: May 09, 2008 - 06:52 AM
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It should be like kingvale in Tahoe.
They have all types of boxes and rails with beginnerish stuff as well as much larger rails.
http://www.kingvaleterrainproject.com/ |
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Posted: May 09, 2008 - 11:25 AM
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shredcity wrote:
totally agree with whats been said before, there are many snowdomes which cater for punters, with 1metre tabletops (extremely small jumps) built only for two evenings a week, why not do something different and get a bit of attention? i would drive for 2 1/2 hours to ride a good decent sized snow kicker, + i'm sure a lot of other people would too
Hang on a minute, most of us are punters, unless youre all pro and i dont know about it, punters are every day folk who turn up, pay the fee and use the facilities, the bread ad butter of every business! There isnt just punter and pro, there a huge range in between, intermediate riders who will ride week in week out. Asking the pros is going to get you a very narrow view of opinion, much of which will be useless when building something that intermediate and begginer snowboarders can use. There is little point in saying yeah build a massive kicker with a twenty meter table top...if very few people will actaully use it. You need something for everyone, especially if you are intending to make it commercially viable.
And its quite elitist and arrogant to pass of everyone who may ride now and again or be begginers off as only being there because they have seen a computer game. |
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