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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 06, 2008 - 09:55 PM



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the original fish shape was great for riding pure deep powder, with its wide nose, short tail and fish tip profile for turning through pow. saved your back leg. but - it was a disaster as soon as you hit hardpack, ice, thin powder over hard crust, or on a piste. or slush. you just couldn't turn, slow down or stop quick enough. havn't tried the revised model with the longer tail.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 06, 2008 - 10:34 PM



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philw has got it covered. I'd just add:

enjoy it when it comes - if you're a two weeks a year rider it's 1st lift / last chair and get as much as you can

Whoop. A lot. Some might say that's really cheesy but hey - no-one's going to know, are they?

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Hey..Dunno If Its Still Active This Thread..But....Is It Pretty Crucial To Change Binding Setups For Pow....Cuz This Would Surely Screw Up My All-Mountain Setup....=[
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 24, 2008 - 04:29 PM



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i remember a couple of years ago in les deux alpes i was a noob and tipped off the side of the boardercross in les deux alpes. i watched my mates coast down while i just went ribs deep. i dont think ive ever been so pissed off trying to dig myself out. i ended up having to 'superman' it on top of my board until i hit some harder stuff. hasnt put me off though...
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Dec 26, 2008 - 09:23 AM



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Riders rarely enjoy their early powder runs. After crashing, burning and finally mastering the piste, powder has its own set of new rules.
We've all been thru it, the nosedives, the digging, the exhaustion, harbouring private thoughts of "this powder stuff is rubbish...."

You've got to learn it, just like hard-pack riding, or slush riding, or park riding.

Once you get it though you will love it, you can smile smugly to yourself and look at the piste with mild contempt...

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after coming back from Sauze and playing in 2ft deep powder just meters off pist I can vouch for the following....

Dont stop or fall - ever - it sucks, gets you knackered and you can easily loose sight of the board if you unclip!

I leaned back and used the front of my borad to turn, using my weight, opposite to how I turn on piste but worth learning

Take lots of photos of your freshies and the powder ;





me and my mates freshies Smile


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Post subject:   PostPosted: Oct 05, 2009 - 06:28 PM



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My mates at Powder Mountain put up some notes to help people with powder.

It's kind of a work in progress, but those are the things which the Powder Mountain guys often end up telling people who are having trouble in the powder.

When I get a second I'll add:
"If you're taking photographs, then you need to tell your camera's metering system that it's shooting snow. Usually that means dialling in somewhere between +2/3 and +2 stops of exposure. If you don't, your shots will be under exposed."

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Thought I'd add a few bits.

If you already know how to ride powder, there is no reason you can't ride it on a short board. I'm 5'10-5'11 and have used a 155 Park board before. What I'd say is that the steeper it is, the less it matters what size board you are on. It's when you are on mellower sections that you tend to find you aren't getting as much float as a longer board, and that's when you will start getting frustrated at being stuck.

I've got a proper 168 powder board, but I've very rarely used it. When I did though, the most noticeable difference is that it instantly floats much better, you can get a hell of a lot of speed, and the extra length means you can lean right back and do huge tail wheelies with your nose right up in the air.


Another little tip.
If you are going to be hiking the same bit of mountain to hit the freshies over, try and keep to the same line down it, making turns that aren't stupidly huge. That way the snow won't get track out so quickly with lots of choppy lines across it. You can possibly even come back to it again another day.
 
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To that I'll add that if you're on a shorter board then set your bindings back if you can, it'll save you a lot of leg burn if you're riding in it all day.

I'd quite happily never ride a park again if there was powder to ride every day Smile

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I've got my fingers crossed for powder on the bash, last trip i loved doing floaty ollies by pumping the powder!

really wanna try some floaty 180's off wind lips so learning switch on powder should be fun esp if i move the bindings back from the usual duck stance Smile

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Post subject: Re: tips for riding powder succesfully  PostPosted: Jan 07, 2010 - 12:57 PM



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philw wrote:

(e) Learn how to paddle.
Take one foot out of the binding, and use it as a paddle. Nothing else works, unless you like crawling through waist-deep.

would you mind expanding on that ? im not sure what you mean Razz
philw wrote:

(l) Banked turns
I'd be very wary of thinking about this as a technique. I think you're best riding centered on your board; if you try deliberately to bank then you may well get your self out of position.

again, not sure what you mean ! what are banked turns ?

sorry for being stoooopid Confused
 
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Post subject: Re: tips for riding powder succesfully  PostPosted: Feb 26, 2010 - 09:59 PM



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Park boards? You do get people who swear they can ride those in powder in the cat. We carry some Fish so they can swap them after the first run. I have never seen anyone riding park boards make two runs in a row.

Even if you're as good as you claim, using the wrong gear is seriously affecting your riding enjoyment. Using the right gear isn't just easier, it's more fun. Sure, you can peel an apple with a butter knife, but why would anyone want to?


on "paddling"
If you're in flat bottomless powder you can't really walk. You can either lie on the board and paddle it like a surfboard, or you can take one foot out and paddle with that. It doesn't work in very soft snow, but often you can get enough purchase to make progress. Some people claim to use collapsible ski poles in those conditions, but I've never seen that done (in Canadian conditions) and in any case you could not use them fast enough to keep up. Sometimes you can post-hole, but that's easier if you have other riders piste a track for you.


on Banked turns
I was pointing out that you want to be careful thinking too much about banking your board. It's very easy to get your weight out of position. A good example is off the lip turns - many people will throw their body down into those and fall over as a consequence. The trick is to ride it, then lean to stop yourself falling over. Not the other way around.

Of course you do bank in any long fast turn, but I think you turn the board first, then lean as a reaction in order to stop yourself falling over. If you mix cause and effect you fall over.

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chaletslovakia wrote:
Riders rarely enjoy their early powder runs. After crashing, burning and finally mastering the piste, powder has its own set of new rules.
We've all been thru it, the nosedives, the digging, the exhaustion, harbouring private thoughts of "this powder stuff is rubbish...."

You've got to learn it, just like hard-pack riding, or slush riding, or park riding.

Once you get it though you will love it, you can smile smugly to yourself and look at the piste with mild contempt...


Yeah mate you could not be more right, I am still a 1/2 n00b (lol) and when I had my first dose of real powder I went way off course because I kept trying to turn and just sinking and falling was a total shambles!! and about half way through trying to crawl up this mountain on my knees all I was thinking to myself was "everyone is raving about pow........F**k pow!!"

But now I see the light.....it just rules

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Apr 28, 2010 - 11:46 PM



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Haha, sorry the tips on here gave me a good laugh!
Just hit the pow, there isnt a right or wrong way of doing, there are just consequences!
Get your board on the pow
Get your technique on, exaggerate all movements that you would use on the piste
If your falling over your doing something wrong, so get on the piste, practice that then get back on the pow
You can go on the pow with any board
Only lean very slightly back 45% on front foot 55% on the back foot
Use rotation of the shoulders for initiation and completion
Lots of flexion and extention with loose knees

Have fun! In some places a pow day is rare!

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Apr 29, 2010 - 01:13 AM



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Need to make a zombie thread revival image soon, will work on that =p

N yesyes at the poster above -- Completely agree, you can ride powder with nearly any board, just make sure you keep going fast!

If you need to stop and regroup (or rest), do it somewhere where it's reasonably steep, so you can easily get going again



N oh, those who hate powder, are not true snowboarders Wink

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