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onidude
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Post subject: Corking Spins
Posted: Aug 05, 2007 - 10:18 PM
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Hey everyone. I can do 540s semi-decently now. Recently I decided to try corking my 540s... dropping your back shoulder right?....
The first two I done were great, landed nice and rode out. But since then I seem to be getting the spin wrong (for example someone said I done a backside rodeo, once) and the most recent one I hammered my back off the landing (it was strange I didn't even seem to cork the correct way or spin enough) I have no idea why though!
I came to the conclusion that its to do with my prewind and take off (anyone disagrees please tell me) And I was wondering if anyone could tell me exactly how you should take off (e.g. should you drop your shoulder before, after or during the time when you start throwing your arms round for the spin) and any other advice would be appriciated... Thank You in advanced |
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Posted: Aug 09, 2007 - 11:48 PM
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Hey sorry I don't think I made it clear, but I want to do backside corks (not confident with frontside spins yet) I went to the slope fairly recently hoping to try one but I was just terrified by the idea of droppnig my shoulder (also the slope was quite sticky and that was just adding to my doubts...)
I REALLY want to land these tricks (well right now I just want to get the confidence to get the rotation right) so if anyone has any info, or even just some sort of confidence building words, please tell me (sorry for being such a pain about it) |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 02:16 PM
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AIRBAG!!! i know every one on here says it but try it on a bag first. corking stuff can go wrong so easily, i found that out by nearly tearing all my ankle ligaments, plus its more fun on the bag to try stuff cuz dont dont get that "oh sh1t what if i die" feeling.  |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 05:31 PM
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Haha, I totally agree. Ack its just something about the airbag puts me off, I think it's because it takes all the danger out of the tricks. Also i find the kicker is always far too wippy for spins. Awell Im going to the next airbag at braehead anyway so I can always give it a shot thanks for the advice  |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 05:38 PM
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| but you're doing corks so it would be easier on a whippy kicker! |
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Posted: Aug 13, 2007 - 05:36 PM
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ye xactly man!!! the only thing i find with the airbag is that it is hard to judge whether u are actually landing the tricks if the air bag wasnt there? or if u are just getting close to landing them.........which means bailing and maybe dying on a real kicker haha  |
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Posted: Aug 13, 2007 - 06:37 PM
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| if you can land them onto the airbag as you would the landing of a kicker, then you should have the spacial awareness necessary to land them on a normal kicker. |
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Posted: Aug 18, 2007 - 12:05 AM
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Hey all. I have learned to cork 5 thanks for your help! Trying to do them off the airbag went ok but mainly on the airbag I was 'landing' bs Rodeos!
I can do the cork 5s off real kickers too now to a reasonable degree (muck up the landing occasionally or I cork different ways; sometimes to the left other times the bottom of my board faces down the slope)
I'm thinking about BS rodeos as my next trick to learn but just wish I could start them on the small kicker and work my way up... less risk and all that... Awell I'll get some balls and try it off the big kicker soon...ish haha I get nervous thinking about it.
Thanks again for all your help! |
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Posted: Aug 27, 2007 - 10:53 AM
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| With f/s i find its easy to cork spins if you literally kick the board away from you, like - out forwards as you take off and having wound up before you continue to spin your 5, then lift your legs up to grab it as early as possible 'cause for some reason it brings the board back gradually flat. (must be a weight thing) I've never even thought of corking a b/s 5 though, i'm in the process of learning them with grabs so, lol. But for f/s - thats what i do. |
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onidude
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Posted: Aug 30, 2007 - 10:53 PM
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lol I think I understand what your saying about the fs spins, seems really possible. I'd so like to try out the way you say, unfortunitly I can't spin fs at all (except 180) hahaha.
I dunno why. When I try and pop off my heels I carve off the too much and lose alot of speed and land really far to the left, and for some reason I can't land fs 360s at all because of it (I land on my heels and it just slips away) I've been trying to figure out how to fix the take off but tbh I can't think of anything (I'd prefer not to take off on my toes)
Also my bs corks have gone strange, 9 times out of ten I am no longer corking, instead it's almost like an off axis 540 with a stiffie grab. I'm gonna fix that next time I go to the slope. But yeah mainly my big problem at the moment is fs take offs... |
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Posted: Oct 10, 2007 - 10:40 PM
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Arg sorry to bother you's but its been like a month and I don't seem to be getting these corks properly at all . I made a video to show you what i mean:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pEoUF3lYWlc
If you pause it at about 4.5 seconds or something, you'll see my board is 'corked' but my body isn't. Does anyone know how to fix this :S... I've been trying to fix it for a month. Again...sorry and thanks... |
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Posted: Oct 12, 2007 - 10:34 PM
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I've gotta say whether you don't think thats right or not, i like that alot. I think if you pause it just before 4.5 ish seconds you can see the board is literally facing vertical and so are you. The only reason i'd say for why you don't feel you're corking AFTER that point is because you're having to prepare for the landing - its not that big a kicker. I think if you were to spin a b/s 5 cork out of a kicker twice the size you'd see alot more flow and by the looks of it, much more of a cleaner, longer grab. I think thats lush though man, you've also got your ride away real nice, your switch seems as clean as your speed checks before the launch anyway. And the landing you get under there JUST in time which alot of people find the hardest aspect of 5s and above.
I'd just keep doing what you're doing buddy
Where is that by the way? I wouldn't mind trying a 5 off of that myself! |
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Posted: Oct 12, 2007 - 11:47 PM
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Hahaha Really? Thanks alot . I'll stick with them then lol. Haha thats actually made me feel alot better about them. Thats at Bearsden dryslope btw. |
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Posted: Oct 13, 2007 - 04:51 PM
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Greetings. Yeah, that's a pretty sweet 5. Now for some advice (Disclaimer - I can't do these tricks at all, I've only ever done one 360 in my life! This is just based on that video - if what I say is rubbish, please shout at me and tell me to shut up!)
Anyway, i was thinking about wanting to get slightly more corked - it may feel like you're not corked cos you're reaching up to grab indy. To get more of a sort of corky type thing going on, perhaps trying that with a tail grab would be slightly more corky. |
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onidude
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Posted: Oct 14, 2007 - 12:47 PM
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Nah, what you say makes perfect sence, I think. Because it makes you throw your shoulder down more, right? I'm just worried grabbing anywhere but indie will make me stay corked or something, and I just crash haha.
I so wanna try a tail grab now! But when ever I try to grab anywhere except indie, I don't cork. I just do a normal 5 with eg. a stale fish. Awell I'm just gonna have to practise getting different grabs and work my way up to the tail. Thanks alot I'll tell you if its successful or not when ever I can =P |
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