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Post subject: Review: K2 Cinch 05/06 Bindings
 Posted: Oct 29, 2006 - 05:56 PM
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First post: Dec 12, 2005
Total posts: 933
Location: Courchevel 1850
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Overall this is a good binding that has had some bad press because of the hybrid technology it uses. The common myth about the Cinch is that it weighs an absolute tonne and handles like a JCB. This just plainly isn't true and anyone who has ridden it will be the first to admit that.
First let me explain the hybrid technology, because it's pretty simple.
It's not like a Flow, which has been accused of everything negative under the sun. "It's not responsive", "It wrecks other companies boots", "It shot JFK" etc.etc.
The back of the Cinch lowers to an angle where the foot can be put in comfortably. However, it goes nowhere near horizontal, as when the back is lowered, the front lifts slightly on a hinge which makes it easier to put the foot in.
Then the second main difference from the flow is revealed. Once you have pulled the back up again, and pulled up the adjustable locking strap, you then turn your attention to the front two straps. The cinch has normal binding straps, which you can tighten around your foot. This is definitely one of the biggest plus points, that you can probably get the most tight fit of any binding out there.
There are its downsides though. It's a bulkier binding which, although it's no brick, it weighs slightly more than other bindings, meaning that freestylers might shy away.
There is also a very flimsy bit of metal on the back that is part of the locking mechanism...that I have managed to buckle and bend when riding more rocky terrain. However, this has no effect on the performance.
Overall, the Cinch is a very good binding. It is extremely responsive and has pioneered the way in hybrid technology, which brings convenience and performance. |
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Post subject: RE: Review: K2 Cinch 05/06 Bindings
Posted: Oct 30, 2006 - 09:47 AM
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First post: Dec 20, 2005
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| I ride Cinch's and like the flexibility, especially the speed for dome riding but still having the adjustability of straps |
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Post subject: RE: Review: K2 Cinch 05/06 Bindings
Posted: Jan 21, 2007 - 02:54 PM
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First post: Aug 11, 2005
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Ive been riding them for a few weeks now and am loving them. I would admit though that they've taken a bit of time to get set up completly correctly though thats probably something to do with me being lazy and just wanting to ride rather than adjusting them every few runs. My issue was the responce on my front foot but wednesday night at chatham i finally got round to doing some more adjustments and there perfect now. Responce is brilliant spesh seeing as my snowboard is completly railed and takes a lot more effort to get any responce out of it. Getting in and out is a breeze and my back foot slips easily in and out, front foot rarely gets taken out so im not as used to using that one yet.
The weight of them is really not an issue for me. The last pair of bindings were definetly lighter than my cinch bindings but when im riding i really dont feel any difference. I learnt a basic back side 180 just before I got my cinch bindings and i am still able to do them off of jumps and now at full riding speed on the flat in my cinch bindings, so it really hasnt shaken any of my freestyle.
What I'd say is if your looking for an easy access binding that is suitable for off piste and steep terrain stepping in then the K2 Cinch are definetly worth a look. If your not worried about being able to get your feet in quick then maybe these arnt for you as they are slightly heavier. |
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Post subject: k2 cinch
Posted: Mar 05, 2007 - 09:38 PM
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First post: Mar 05, 2007
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| I have a pair of K2 cinch for two seasons now. the binding is stating to slip no matter how hard i tighten down the screws. the screw has ground away the metal on the binding plate. anyone else have any issues like this? |
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Post subject: RE: k2 cinch
Posted: Apr 20, 2007 - 01:12 AM
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First post: Aug 11, 2006
Total posts: 15
Location: West Midlands
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I am a begineer and I am tired of using hire gear. Would you guys recommend K2s to a newbie who wants his first set of gear?
If so, which model? CTL or CTS?
All I need to do then is find the flipping things, as it's out-of-season and they seem to all gone on their hols  |
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Post subject: RE: k2 cinch
Posted: Apr 20, 2007 - 08:52 AM
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First post: Feb 20, 2007
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| One of my mates had Cinches on the last week i had on snow. He really likes them, and got on pretty well with them for the week - he used to have flows, and thinks these are way better. But when I picked up his board for him, I was surprised that the whole set up seemed to weigh about twice as mine. I know he was riding a 164 and I was on a 158, but it seemed to be a hell of a lot more difference than that should have made. |
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Post subject: RE: k2 cinch
Posted: Apr 20, 2007 - 08:58 AM
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First post: Dec 20, 2005
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Location: Nothamptonshire
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Could have been a heavier board as well, but the Cinch's are definitely heavier (based around owning the '05/06 model - newer ones my be lighter)
My Cinch's are coming to the end of their (admittedly hard) life and are starting to have problems with the back catch coming out. I solved this by gluing the supporting parts in place with epoxy, so I can still flip the back up and down, but the parts that support the catch are glue to provide extra stiffness.
I'm probably going to keep the Cinch's for dome use, and buy a set of straps for the mountain |
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Post subject: RE: k2 cinch
Posted: Apr 20, 2007 - 09:09 AM
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First post: Feb 20, 2007
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| Just a quick question regarding Cinches, Flows and all types of step ins. What is the main reason you've opted for step ins? I can totally see the point at indoor places and dry slopes as you're hopping into and out of the bindings all the time, but is quickness the only reason? I really enjoy (I don't know why!) the process of strapping in and ratchetting up, and it doesn't take that long. Am I missing out? |
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Post subject: RE: k2 cinch
Posted: Apr 26, 2007 - 03:59 PM
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First post: Nov 11, 2004
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I got some K2 Debuts for my birthday, they are heavier than my Lexa's but they work a hell of alot better!
I like em! Better than the Burton rubbish I got in the beginning! |
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Post subject: Re: RE: k2 cinch
Posted: Apr 26, 2007 - 04:39 PM
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First post: Jan 25, 2007
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waynef wrote:
I am a begineer and I am tired of using hire gear. Would you guys recommend K2s to a newbie who wants his first set of gear?
If so, which model? CTL or CTS?
All I need to do then is find the flipping things, as it's out-of-season and they seem to all gone on their hols
Don't think anyone answered your question, so I'll have a half hearted crack.
Asking a question as part of a review section like this, you'll prob get everyone saying...."Yes, go for it". You have to be careful how/where you ask those Q's. I think the general consensus though on Bindings tend to see either the ROME 390's or Salomon Relay Pro's win hands down, with a few people recommending RIDE (although I bought some a few months back based on people on here, and they aren't very good durability).
Salomon Relay pro's are suppossed to be the most comfy and responsive binding on the market, but i think they are ugly as. My new ROME 390's just turned up about 2 hours ago and looking at the build quality compared to my previous RIDE, Burton and Nitro bindings..........these are superb, and I'm gona be smiling for the rest of the day. I don't think I'll ever buy any other brand, unless the Relay Pro's look better next season.
It's prob best to shortlist some you may be thinking of and then start a post with a poll in the equipment section. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: k2 cinch
Posted: Apr 27, 2007 - 08:51 PM
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First post: Apr 21, 2007
Total posts: 154
Location: Preston
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ace_mcgraw wrote:
Just a quick question regarding Cinches, Flows and all types of step ins. What is the main reason you've opted for step ins? I can totally see the point at indoor places and dry slopes as you're hopping into and out of the bindings all the time, but is quickness the only reason? I really enjoy (I don't know why!) the process of strapping in and ratchetting up, and it doesn't take that long. Am I missing out?
i have flows but gone back to my old burtons til i get my new 1s through, anyway i got mine for speed reasons, but then i realised they were great on drag lifts. the things i found wrong with them was that they took ages to set up, and felt a bit sloppy. to be honest they're only a second or 2 quicker than regular bindings so i dont think they worth getting. Only my opinion on the flows the K2 might be awsome! |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: k2 cinch
Posted: May 24, 2007 - 01:19 PM
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First post: May 24, 2007
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I have a set of K2 CTX 07's I've found them a great binding and would have happily lived with them for years, unfortunately due to a set up issue I have had to replace them, I did have some small issues..,
The bindings are very quick to put on with is great much fast than ratchets, however if you are not on flat ground there can be a problem as you have to be standing to get them on and this is difficult to do if you are moving!!
The straps have a quick release adjustment on the opposite end to the buckle (where usual binding straps are screwed) this had a habit of coming undone which was a pain!
The ratchet mech on the straps is not good, very stiff to use, and difficult to undo.
I wear 32 boots, at the rear of the boot on the heel you have a section where the sole carrys on up the heel (know what I mean?) anyhow due to the way in which the binding works it did rip this sole section away from the back of my boots 
When using them on long runs when the weather is cold the mech got full of ice and snow and would not hinge, so to get my foot out I had to undo the straps, no big deal but it defeats the object a little.
I have issues with the bindings moving on the binding plates as mentioned above.
There is limited adjustment on the Cinch when compared to conventional bindings, and due to this I have recently had to change bindings
Due to the way in which the bindings work I found it impossible to get them to mount to the board so as my foot was in the centre of the board (width wise) you can obviously rotate the binding plates so as the slots run across the width of the board as apose to tip to tail but I found to get my foot where it needed to be the binding base plate would hang off the board! I tried a smaller Cinch bindings but due to my foot size (UK12) everything else was to small! I think K2 are aware of this problem as the bindings come with Offset binding plates!
(Unfortunatly I was a begineer when I bought them and knew nothing of board set up until after I had used the bindings - doh!!!)
I have replaced with Burton CO2, I havent ridden then yet but initial impressions are they sit central on the board first time of asking, much more adjustability, and the binding plates are better. The high backs are much higher and more supportive, and due to this feel as if they will be more responsive, but they do feel more flimsy! They are lighter, but I didnt have an issue with the CTX's weight at all.
Overall I think they are a great binding, when doing a review you always seem to focus on the negatives as there would be no point saying "They are cool buy them!" but I would recommend them, they just didnt work for me, I would advise visiting a board shop with you board and boots fitting a pair and seeing if they suit you. If so go for it, they are a clever and great bit of kit!! |
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Posted: Jun 25, 2007 - 06:43 AM
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First post: Jun 21, 2007
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Bought a pair of 06 cinch's last summer. i've used a pair of flow bindings on a rental board many moons ago, liked the idea but couldnt get the right ajustment. With the K2's they have the speed + straps for fine tweaking them.
First day in Les arcs had problems with them. Half way through the day i was having problems pulling up the buckle on the highback. When i investegated i found that the thin ass piece of metal keeping the wire in place had bent. Now the bloke in the shop said it was my fault, i sort of except that (i was doing the binding up after all) but i think that if i have to check that every time it defeats the object which is speed. Boardwise did give me another buckle for free and i get the impression that i wasnt the first with this problem.
+ one of the toe straps is normal completely unclipped its self by the end of the 5th or 6th run, even though i checked at the top of the lift.
Now i'm looking for some new strap in bindings. I will only use the cinch's in the dome. |
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Posted: Jun 25, 2007 - 08:44 AM
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First post: Dec 02, 2005
Total posts: 939
Location: rainy'est place in the UK, Preston
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I've been running my K2 cinch for years now, i must have got the original first year ones
and they still fine, one tow strap on its way out and as everyone else has found the little metal tab on the back bends
easy, but it doesnt stop the bindings from working
main reason i got them, i knew being a englander most of my board'n will be on dryslope or dome
so got somet easy to step into for dome/DS use but which could still use like normal strap on the moutain
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Posted: Jun 25, 2007 - 10:24 AM
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First post: Jun 21, 2007
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True , when the tab of metal bends it dont stop the binding from working but occasionally the wire moves out of place, then you have to relocate it. Also found that the padding on the highback (back foot) start to come away after one days riding, and front foot about day three. Not a major problem but didnt think this would happen so quick. My mate bought a pair of 07 from the state's, payed $100, and he's had no probs. May be im just a unlucky heavy handed git  |
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