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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 17, 2010 - 07:41 PM



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07Davies - The caption you talk of is a "Tag" - meaning we used as many search terms as possible to help people find the image- however, I have since changed it to avoid further confusion.

Secondly - click the upload button and you will find out...? As you may have guessed by the huge "Upload Videos" button lower down, and by the site content, it allows you to upload videos or Pictures.. Wink

Thirdly - 86p for a sticker if you sign up now Razz

Demograph - snowboarders of any kind located in UK mainly, but Europe and US/Canada is ok too. Mainly male. Aged 12-45

I don't like talking too much about myself over the web, but since you asked

Name: Sam Harrison
Age: 22
Boarding for: 12 yrs
Stance: Regular +15 -7
Ride: Forum Grudge
Real job: Finance - specifically in investments (No, I didn't cause the credit crunch though) - that is where most of my time goes, as well as my MSc. That paid for the car you can see in one of the pics on uStomp Embarassed Laughing This is a side project.


I ride the dome very rarely, more of a twice a year snow holiday guy, but have done a season too. I also wakeboard, and windsurf.

Our niche - we want to have everything a boarder could ever want under one roof, and do it with some funky styling at the same time.

Thanks for your honest and constructive criticism Branny, I appreciate it, and have taken it all on board. I can't thank you enough.


Sam
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 17, 2010 - 08:41 PM



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Well on your website it gives "General riding photos from a variety of sources" under one which had tags Tags: nose tap

and "female girl snowboarders" under another with tags # Tags: Female Victoria Jealouse Shredding

So surely that isnt tags?


You asked wht i thought so i said?
But i'm a girl and your going out to guys so maybe thats why.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 17, 2010 - 09:51 PM



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I have since changed the tag to "Female Victoria Jealouse Shredding " which is why it now says that. Apologies if my previous comment came off condesending in any way - I was just trying to point that out.

Actually I am happy to say we have a good number of female riders at uStomp, hence why I made an album specifically for those of us with double X chromosones.

I do appreciate any thoughts - and take them all very seriously - so keep them coming!

Our web designer is taking a break for uni work so will have a slight pause in getting some of the changes made Sad

Thanks again

Sam

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 22, 2010 - 07:34 PM



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Ok guys - we are having a minor refurb and some spelling/bug fixes very shortly. so keep your eyes peeled.

Membership has grown significantly since we started our free vinyl offer -so thanks very much for that suggestion Smile

Any comments/feedback still very welcome!

Thanks all

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 24, 2010 - 01:05 PM



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It's clear you've put a lot of effort in, su props for that, but I have to agree with whats already been said in terms of:

- Theres already a number of sites that do exactly what you're trying to do (With SCUK and GB being the two biggest) and you don't seem to be doing anything too different. Gonna be hard to get people to buy in.

- You really could be doing with getting a web designer to look over it. It's very fussy, with not much flow to it at all, load times are longer than they should be and (as was pointed out) loading certain parts of the page require loading the whole thing. For photos especially you should only be reloading the photo within the viewer as opposed the whole page. There are plenty of tools out there you can integrate with your sit to do this. I've used "highslide" for example with great success on my image galleries.

- You say you work in finance. Wouldn't happen to be for Prudential (or a Pru group company) would it? First thing I noticed (and it was in your face obvious to me as I also work in that sector) was that you're 4 head graphics on the main page were rip offs of "Prudence", the Prudential logo. OK, they've been tweaked a bit, but not enough for it not to bring about some questions should you start making money on the site and the company find out. You might want to look at that.

Good that you are trying as I like to see all things snowboard, but unless theres something different that draws me in I already spend too much time on GB, SCUK, MPora to add another site.

Can you think of something new and different to add that would make people want to be involved?
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 24, 2010 - 10:28 PM



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gaz_5_m wrote:
It's clear you've put a lot of effort in, su props for that, but I have to agree with whats already been said in terms of:

- Theres already a number of sites that do exactly what you're trying to do (With SCUK and GB being the two biggest) and you don't seem to be doing anything too different. Gonna be hard to get people to buy in.

- You really could be doing with getting a web designer to look over it. It's very fussy, with not much flow to it at all, load times are longer than they should be and (as was pointed out) loading certain parts of the page require loading the whole thing. For photos especially you should only be reloading the photo within the viewer as opposed the whole page. There are plenty of tools out there you can integrate with your sit to do this. I've used "highslide" for example with great success on my image galleries.

- You say you work in finance. Wouldn't happen to be for Prudential (or a Pru group company) would it? First thing I noticed (and it was in your face obvious to me as I also work in that sector) was that you're 4 head graphics on the main page were rip offs of "Prudence", the Prudential logo. OK, they've been tweaked a bit, but not enough for it not to bring about some questions should you start making money on the site and the company find out. You might want to look at that.

Good that you are trying as I like to see all things snowboard, but unless theres something different that draws me in I already spend too much time on GB, SCUK, MPora to add another site.

Can you think of something new and different to add that would make people want to be involved?


Haha, no I don't work for Prudential, or in that sector - But on that point - since we used different colours, a name that is totally different, a totally new image base and also are in a different industry, there is 0%chance of any legal issues with that (trust me) - Good spot though, you are numner 2 to spot that.

-The whole thing was done by a web designer and someone is currently going over the whole site to give us a report on improvements that could be made.

-As for your last question - I guess its a love/hate thing, we have had a lot of good feedback, and some people see real value in it, those who have used many snowboard sites before see less value - which is fair enough.

Thanks for your feedback - stay tuned, changes on the way.

Sam

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gaz_5_mOfflineSCUK Member
Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 24, 2010 - 10:57 PM



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h4m0 wrote:

Haha, no I don't work for Prudential, or in that sector - But on that point - since we used different colours, a name that is totally different, a totally new image base and also are in a different industry, there is 0%chance of any legal issues with that (trust me) - Good spot though, you are numner 2 to spot that.


You might want to revisit that one, especially since you have admitted you are using the Pru logo. Using different colours, changing the name etc only covers you for "passing off". Unless you received express permission from Prudential to use the Prudence head (which they created) you are in breach of intellectual property and they will be able to pull you up on it (should they wish, which they probably wont).

Their website content and copyright statement is pretty clear:

Copyright Notice
The entire contents of this website are the property of Prudential...
.....You may not reproduce (in whole or in part), modify, decompile, disassemble or transmit or use for any commercial purpose whatsoever any information from this website without contacting Prudential plc or the relevant party and obtaining their prior written consent.

I'm just pointing it out as its something that if I noticed and someone else has as well, if your site does take off it could land you in hot water.

Also, as a part time web designer myself I think its pretty cack that you'll openly steal other folks work for your own site without asking. If it was something of mine you'd taken, I'd be pulling you up and given the work I put in I think that only fair. That said, if you asked first I'd probably give you it, but its just a courtesy thing.

As I said though, only pointing it out since I noticed.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 25, 2010 - 06:24 PM



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Tail block description sounds more like Board Stall. You don't need object for tail blocks. Bit of a mix up there.
Like the idea of simple descriptions though. Be good to get rid of the google ads, or at least drop them lower in the page.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 26, 2010 - 10:11 AM



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Ruanaich - I agree, I didn't write that section of the trick list - however, we are getting new and revised descriptions for a few tricks uploaded soon - so will look into that for you. As for the ads, we have the least numerous and intrusive ads of any any snowboard site I have seen. Smile Do you agree?

Going back to prudential - we didn't use there logo - we liked the styling - it wasn't used, re-styled in anyway - ours is a NEW image, created in a simialr style, the fact it is a different size, colour, wording, and even looks totally different, with different font means we didn't steal - we used inspiration. Make more sense now?

Thanks again for your feedback on the matter - we will continue to change what we can to make it a better website - expect to see new basics sections in the trick list shortly as well as some other small refinements.

Thanks again guys - keep it coming if you have any more to throw at us (maybe try and find some positive stuff every now and then? Will be better for my self esteem Smile )

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 26, 2010 - 01:37 PM



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h4m0 wrote:
Going back to prudential - we didn't use there logo - we liked the styling - it wasn't used, re-styled in anyway - ours is a NEW image, created in a simialr style, the fact it is a different size, colour, wording, and even looks totally different, with different font means we didn't steal - we used inspiration. Make more sense now?


Sorry mate, changing the colour/ font and adding a few extra bits to it doesn't make it OK and certainly wouldn't clear you should you be challenged on it.

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The first image has clearly been used as a base (look at the chin, mouth, nose, bandana above the eyes which are all identical) and all you've done is added/changed some things to it to make it fit with the style of your site.

As I said before, Prudential probably wouldn't bother with the hassle. All I was doing was pointing out that with those design ethics (assuming this isnt the only style like this on the site) other people who have had their work "used for inspiration" might and you might land in hot water.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 31, 2010 - 10:34 AM



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Sorry Gaz, I just don't see how this is a problem. To me it looks very different. Thanks for taking the time to raise the issue though.

- On a different note, we are in the process of adding back buttons to every trick page - to make things easier to navigate.

New tricks, updated tricks (re-worded) and new basics sections coming soon too.

Still would love to hear your feedback - also if you oppose to the logos as mentioned above, please let me know.

Sam

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 31, 2010 - 12:05 PM



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m8, the logo is pretty bloody close - same chin, mouth, bottom of nose, sweat-band & ear/sideburn (plus the sweat-band tassle is the same, just rotated to be the goggle-strap). Swear I've seen that glove somewhere before too, not sure where tho.

normally you could probably get away using their artwork with fair-use rights (until they complain and you'll have to withdraw), but if you're getting any income through the site (which is obvious via the multitude of adverts) then fair-use rights aren't valid and there's pretty much no way you should be using it.

When musicians can sue each other for a fraction of a song (or a small sample) being used for commercial gain without permission then there's no way you'll be able to get away with as much as you've plagerised.

As for your site - you still have massive 2 meg images being used as logos on some tricks (filename is "sidemanual.jpg"). plus, would be far more helpful if the tricks were in some order, perhaps alphabetical?

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 31, 2010 - 03:53 PM



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Alphabetical order is a good idea, and TBH had I made the site myself, that is what I would have done. I will try and get this done asap, but my developer has gone somewhat AWOL recently Sad

The images should be smaller in size, and that shouldn't be a hard job to do either, but not a priority at the moment (Will get it done asap though)

Again, I didn't make the artwork, a graphic designer did, we purchased the content from him. and there is not much we can do about it at the moment... Although if we did get big, we would change more than just the artwork.

As for the other aspects of the site - anything you like? dislike? found useful?

Thanks Dereks.

Sam

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Wow I can't believe we got so much feedback from this thread, probably the most useful tool we could have hoped for in our early development.

Seriously guys all of your feedback couldn't be more welcome and anything negative is much more helpful than anything like "yeah love the site" - although that is welcome Wink - as it serves to tell us exactly what you want.

For the low down our web designer is a very close friend who is studying web design (you'd hope) at university - he is very talented but he is currently doing his dissertation alongside this and thus it is quite hard to get him to devote time to making the larger changes.

We are getting there and everything is taken on board and we want to make the site exactly how you guys want as it would be pretty lame if it was only us that ended up using it :/

Keep the comments coming and we will do our best to improve.

Cheers guys and girls!!
Jordan
 
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all im going to say is i read the trick tip section and laughed. 720...........you don't even explain if it's frontside, backside, switch back or cab. there is a massive difference in technique for spinning a front sev to a back sev! and you say "find a decent sized jump" haha wtf? so is a decent sized jump a 14m medium table? or is it a 21m step down show booter? your missing a hell of a lot of rail tricks by the way too. in my opinion i read this and think its been written by someone who doesn't know what they are doing.
 
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