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This thread was an amusing read.
It's pretty simple really, they booked a private transfer, for 500 Euro.
The bus company offered them a discount if they make their private transfer a non-private transfer.
They either chose to do that, or don't. Where's the difficulty? There's no shady behaviour here, just a straight up offer to change the terms of the service (from private to public) and a discount is offered to sweeten it for all parties concerned. You don't have to take it, it's just an offer!
Personally I'd take it, makes it cheaper and helps out some people you'll be staying with - who might even buy you a beer or two with the hundreds they'll save, for being legends and saving them from paying top dollar for their own private transfer. Just hope they don't read this thread!
Bashing Sidget based on age is frankly laughable. Nice one.
matty.boy
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Are we being ripped off or what? Posted: Dec 04, 2009 - 04:02 PM
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last year on the bash our plane was canceled, so we ended up being flown to grenoble 12 hours later. thankfully john arranged a transfer to resort for us, and that cost 500 euros. Grenoble is about 50km closer/half an hour closer so i'd say your paying an average price there to be honest.
Tiberius
Post subject:Posted: Dec 04, 2009 - 04:19 PM
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SamMalone wrote:
I’m trying to think of a way to explain this (as I see it) and this is the best scenario I can come up with: <snip>
It's a good scenario...but it doesn't really equate does it? Putting extra people in a room doesn't really encur extra costs for the hotel (other than a marginal cost of extra hot water used in the morning). A better analogy would be bed and breakfast, and in that case you would expect to pay extra to the hotel for the extra food.
Here, the extra weight/people is going to incur extra fuel, and extra time for the driver to load/unload. So you'd expect the company to be enumerated accordingly.
Fundamentally, as stated above, it's a offer to change the private booking to a public booking, take it or leave it, but 'being ripped off' doesn't really apply. However, as stated above it's the kind of attitude I'd expect snowboarders to take tbh.
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Mattylovesthewindchill
Post subject:Posted: Dec 04, 2009 - 07:00 PM
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"Bashing sidged based on his ages is laughable, nice one"
Your right, experience counts for nothing.
I have never had a problem with companys making a profit, what I have a problem with is companys that are very quick to charge that little bit extra for no apparent reason. They could make a good profit on the 500, so where is that extra money going. It was a PRIVATE, again a PRIVATE shuttle booked, so any extra people should be agreed by the booker, and the price (500) split between the 7.
Anyway im done with this thread, it used up/amused me for a good afternoon yesterday when it was too cold to ride. Going snowboarding.
Sidget
Post subject:Posted: Dec 04, 2009 - 07:33 PM
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Your right, experience counts for nothing.
I've been on several trips abroad snowboarding, and multiple trips flying around Europe, when I was 17 i got to the bash resort by myself, booked my own plane tickets, arranged my own transfer times etc - I didn't cry that I had to wait a few hours for the transfer, as it's part of life
You're bashing me for being young (19) yet I know that at times you've just gotta be patient and relax - I guess you never learnt that...
N oh, I only knew vaguely a few people when I arrived to my first bash, decided to hang around with some people I met on the transfer, left after the week with some amazing mates and great experiences, SCUK is like a giant family to me - be welcoming to anyone who is nice enough to be friendly to you, I sure have had a lot of people help me out / be kind to me for no benefit of their own
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Post subject:Posted: Dec 04, 2009 - 08:30 PM
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Mattylovesthewindchill wrote:
... I have a problem with is companys that are very quick to charge that little bit extra for no apparent reason
But myself and several other people have listed those other reasons. You just choose to ignore them because they don't fit in with your seemingly set idea that you're being 'ripped off'.
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ChasKi
Post subject:Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 12:55 AM
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It's really simple mate, they gave you another option. Transfers are calculated on a per person basis, not per bus (which you seem to think it is).
Options:
a) 500 Euro's for PRIVATE transfer split by 4 people, at your chosen time.
b) 700 Euro's for a PUBLIC transfer split by 7, 1 hour later.
You're free to pick either one you want, one is cheaper than the other and you'd have to share the bus with 3 others you don't know. The shady 'foul play' is all in your head mate.
Mattylovesthewindchill
Post subject:Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 01:47 AM
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Ok this is my last addition to this thread, it went from being amusing to tiresome.
Tiberius wrote:
Mattylovesthewindchill wrote:
... I have a problem with is companys that are very quick to charge that little bit extra for no apparent reason
But myself and several other people have listed those other reasons. You just choose to ignore them because they don't fit in with your seemingly set idea that you're being 'ripped off'.
Yes, I saw the crap you wrote, and it is such crap that it wasnt even worth a comment. Anyone that thinks 3 extra peoples weight and an hours drivers wages amounts to 200 extra quid is quite simply, an idiot. The amount bugged me, not that they increased the price.
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It's really simple mate, they gave you another option. Transfers are calculated on a per person basis, not per bus (which you seem to think it is).
Options:
a) 500 Euro's for PRIVATE transfer split by 4 people, at your chosen time.
b) 700 Euro's for a PUBLIC transfer split by 7, 1 hour later.
You're free to pick either one you want, one is cheaper than the other and you'd have to share the bus with 3 others you don't know.
Well no sh1t. Thanks for that, without that post I am sure he would be struggling t make the call.
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I've been on several trips abroad snowboarding, and multiple trips flying around Europe, when I was 17 i got to the bash resort by myself, booked my own plane tickets, arranged my own transfer times etc - I didn't cry that I had to wait a few hours for the transfer, as it's part of life
You're bashing me for being young (19) yet I know that at times you've just gotta be patient and relax - I guess you never learnt that...
N oh, I only knew vaguely a few people when I arrived to my first bash, decided to hang around with some people I met on the transfer, left after the week with some amazing mates and great experiences, SCUK is like a giant family to me - be welcoming to anyone who is nice enough to be friendly to you, I sure have had a lot of people help me out / be kind to me for no benefit of their own
Good for you
Sidget
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Post subject:Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 10:35 AM
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Matty, I dunno if you're deliberately being retarded, or just not reading anyones threads? The service has gone from private, to non private, and therefore the people are being compensated for that change.
Post subject: Re: Are we being ripped off or what? Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 12:16 PM
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SamMalone wrote:
I’ve spoken about some of this on another thread, but I can’t seem to find it to link it to this:
Anyway, are we being ripped off or is this the way it works with airport transfers?
We go to Tignes from Dec 13th – 20th (flying EDI-GVA)
We booked our flights back in July, to get them as cheap as we could. We booked our chalet mid September and about 4 days before we booked, I had a long conversation with one of the co-owners of the chalet. During this conversation, he told me the cost of a transfer for 2008/09 was 450 euros per 8 seater bus and that we’d be roundabout that price divided by 8.
As it worked out, we were the only guests flying into GVA and due to our flight times we couldn’t use Alpi/Alti bus or get the train and we wouldn’t consider hiring a car. The chalet co-owner organised transfers with Cool Bus and he initially quoted us 550 euros split between the 4 of us, this then came down to 500, which the co owner declared a “good deal” and that “it wasn’t that cheap for season 2008-09” (he forgot he’d told me it 450 for 2008-09)
We resigned our selves, to paying the 500 and paid a 30% deposit. On Tuesday, the co owner phoned me and said they had another 3 people wanting to share our bus, but we’d have to wait an hour in GVA for them. To which, I said OK, assuming that it’ll now be 500/7, to which the chalet co-owner replied it would be more like 550/7. At which we said “no way, we’ve got an invoice from Cool Bus for 500 euros, that’s the agreed price”
He forwarded the new request to Cool Bus (without attaching our comments), asking them if it was OK to pick up one hour later at GVA. Cool Bus replied yesterday saying it wouldn’t be a problem and that the new price for the bus is 700 euros and that as my group had paid 500 euros (they took the outstanding balance before they replied) we’d get a refund of 29 euros each (which might be enough for a round of beers and a packet of crisps, whilst we wait for the other 3 to arrive at GVA)
Some of our group think “yes, we’re being ripped off, but what can you do” and others think, “fcuk them, we won’t wait for the extra hour for the sake of 29 euros and we’ll just keep it at 500 euros and have the 8 seater to ourselves, so we can stretch out, rather than wait for an hour for the other 3”, that way Cool Bus need to send another bus and the other 3 can pay whatever they get charged divided by 3.
Anyone else been in this kinda situation before?
So at what point through out this thread did it turn from "the chalet owner arranging a transfer" to "a private transfer"?
It was never a private transfer, it was just something that the chalet owner arranged for you and you have started reffering to it as a "private transfer" to help bulster your arguement.
You've got three options, say yes, say no or walk. For me, i'd have said yes from the word go and made a few mates along the way.
Tiberius
Post subject:Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 12:39 PM
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Mattylovesthewindchill wrote:
<snip>
As I said earlier. Snowboarders have a pretty bad reputation for being stuck up, selfish, non-inclusive, clique forming, opinionated, prats.
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Post subject: Re: Are we being ripped off or what? Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 03:31 PM
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During a phone call I had with the Chalet Bonjour Bonjour co-owner on Sept 9th, he said not to go with Alpibus as he coud arrange a cheaper PRIVATE transfer. He said the price for 08-09 was 450 PER BUS split between 8, so we'd get it for about 65-75 euros each. The quote of 65-75 euros was a contributing factor in us choosing Calet Bonjour Bonjour.
We were originally gonna go for the Mountain Sun chalet as they were gonna pick us up at GVA for £50 return (£25pp each way!), but we thought that for another £25 Chalet Bonjour Bonjour and Tignes Les Brev would be a better base as the girl who's coming has never boarded before.
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Gazza
Post subject:Posted: Dec 08, 2009 - 05:40 PM
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Saying yes and pocketing the 30 quid refund and going with the public shared option and the chance to make friends with some new chums is all caring and sharing and lovelly and cosy and all that..... until their flight gets delayed, then their one of their luggage goes missing, and then...... etc .... Your 1 hour wait for them could become 2...3...4....more.... and then you're travelling in the main changeover day peak traffic and you get stuck for hours in traffic as they shut the tunnels & auto-routes to limit the flow into the valleys, blah, blah blah.
On that same basis though - it is understandable and reasonable why the TOTAL bus costs are more (even though the per head costs are rightly less) for 7 than it is for the 4, as it has to be costed to wait for two flights, picking up extra time/salary for the driver plus potentially parking charges, and the potential of further delays.
That said, call me selfish, but 125 for a guaranteed private transfer to meet my flight, vs 96 for a shared public transfer, I have no shame in admitting I'd probably go for the private option, as there is obvisouly less chance of something going wrong (which lets face it, things do go wrong with flights/airports).
SamMalone
Post subject:Posted: Dec 08, 2009 - 08:56 PM
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I got an invoice from Cool Bus today telling me we were still due them 350 euros for our transfer.
I told them that we'd paid the outstanding 350 over a week ago and that they were due us a refund of 29 euros each as we were sharing the transfer with the 3 from Derby.
Cool Bus said they had been told we were not gonna wait for the other 3.
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