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SCUK and Website - Navy Advert

charliebuoy - Jan 09, 2009 - 05:01 PM
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The Navy advert at the top of the page gets in the way of the drop down menus which is really rather annoying.

dunx - Jan 09, 2009 - 05:29 PM
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Ooops, yup Rob mentioned this and I haven't had a look yet. Stu normally deals with ads and he's away for a couple of weeks. I might have to get my hands dirty again.

charliebuoy - Jan 09, 2009 - 11:01 PM
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Cool beans.

rachie - Jan 10, 2009 - 04:42 PM
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Yeah its really gettin to me, i aint gonna renew my membership till its sorted Wink

navychick - Jan 10, 2009 - 09:45 PM
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keep it there!!! only cos i'm totally biased of course Thumbs Up

AndySmee - Jan 12, 2009 - 03:19 PM
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don't break anything, Dunx

Branny - Jan 12, 2009 - 03:29 PM
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rachie wrote:

Yeah its really gettin to me, i aint gonna renew my membership till its sorted Wink

in fact if you pay your membership you shouldn't have to see it..

it's all the freeloaders on the site that cause the problem Razz

dunx - Jan 13, 2009 - 10:21 AM
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Except we get paid per view.

I can't even work out what the admin log in is for the banner software, so trying to contact Stu in Bali or wherever he's swanned off to in our busiest month!

dunx - Jan 13, 2009 - 10:38 AM
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I just fired up my spare PC, which has no banner blockers on it. The Navy ad works fine there in IE6. Is this still an issue for people?

rachie - Jan 13, 2009 - 11:29 AM
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Branny wrote:

rachie wrote:

Yeah its really gettin to me, i aint gonna renew my membership till its sorted Wink

in fact if you pay your membership you shouldn't have to see it..

it's all the freeloaders on the site that cause the problem Razz

Im not a freeloader thank you

craignixon - Jan 13, 2009 - 06:12 PM
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I think its just the fact its really, really annoying dunx Smile

For example, I tend to view the site by opening a sh1t load of windows in firefox and then clicking as mark everything read.

So when I go to close a window, the banner pops up.

If you're navigating via the drop down boxes (in firefox at least), the drop down box appears behind the roll banner (see attachment for how it looks)

dunx - Jan 14, 2009 - 12:13 PM
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Is that the Navy ad we're talking about? I've not seen that one.

This is the problem we've seen before and is down to the developers of the ads. It's a real pain.

charliebuoy - Jan 14, 2009 - 12:31 PM
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That's the problem I'm getting.

mcgremlin - Jan 14, 2009 - 03:05 PM
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i think an ad free forum for members could be a good idea.
This navy advert is actually affecting the functionality of the website.

The ads down the side dont bother me too much or the bottom., i am turning back on Adblock on firefox in the mean time.

dunx - Jan 15, 2009 - 02:30 PM
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I don't see them anyway! They've told me they're looking into this ad for me to get it fixed. If Stu was here he'd now how to exclude it, but he's away and I haven't got a clue (generally). Apologies for the inconvenience though and hopefully resolved soon.

stu - Jan 20, 2009 - 12:22 PM
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I'm back!!!! has this problem been resolved? (banner works fine on my system) if not i'll disable the banner in question

stu

dunx - Jan 20, 2009 - 04:11 PM
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I'm not sure Stu as I don't see the banners in question, but I have noticed that sometimes I can't click on some of the links/buttons at the top of the forum, which implies something is over the top of them.

stu - Jan 20, 2009 - 04:32 PM
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I'll leave it until someone responds in this thread to say that the problem is still persisting?

stu

craignixon - Jan 20, 2009 - 04:41 PM
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Still getting the same issue in Firefox 3.0.5, though interestingly the banner isn't coming up as often anymore.

Also the same issue on my work IE version circa 1908.

stu - Jan 20, 2009 - 05:06 PM
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Thanks, more banners have been added to the rotation hence its not showing as much...

Firefox represents 33% of our browsers viewing the site, and 3.0.5 is 80% of the versions used.

So I'll disable it for now until they provide a new version, and apologies for the problems it may have caused

stu

G/Dad - Jan 20, 2009 - 11:39 PM
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The quicksilver King of snow banner is doing the same thing as well

stu - Jan 21, 2009 - 09:53 AM
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Okay, I've stopped that one too, although it is still visible in the left column.
Thanks for the feed back
stu

kieren24 - Feb 04, 2009 - 05:00 PM
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personally I thought the add was amazing... probably the best we have ever had on here...

Branny - Feb 04, 2009 - 05:06 PM
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hello sailor Very Happy

off topic..but personally the advertising of the armed forces on freesports websites and competitions in the UK and the US is a frikin' disgrace, and i ad block 'em out of principal.

i still believe there is no place in snowboarding for advertising the military

(and before i get called a left wing tree hugging lady in comfy shoes...i'm a 10 year served ex service man who works in the arms trade...)

stu - Feb 04, 2009 - 05:11 PM
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1/ King of Snow ad does look great.
2/ Forces adverts is a tricky one, but personally I'm not offended by them, if people want to join then its upto them. I know RAF, Army, Navy all have snowboarding teams at the Brits and they do quite a few trips... not a bad job in my mind...
stu

nickmotture - Feb 04, 2009 - 05:17 PM
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Why is advertising on a snowboard website any diffferent that say advertsing on a football website branny?

dunx - Feb 04, 2009 - 05:42 PM
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I'll guess he'll say it isn't Smile

We all have an opinion on this. My personal opinion is that we need the RAF/Navy/Army and advertising for recruits is a more than acceptable activity.

[I also work indirectly for the Army BTW, but my opinion wouldn't be any different if I didn't.]

kieren24 - Feb 04, 2009 - 05:45 PM
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I know RAF, Army, Navy all have snowboarding teams at the Brits and they do quite a few trips... not a bad job in my mind...

I think we had a guy finish second in the Mens Masters Boarder cross last year (Mick Arrowsmith) and do we not have a TD there also? I think this year we'll be sending a bigger team and we should be having a summer camp in L2A also...

And yes it's a great job, I just got back from 2 weeks at the Alpine Champs, I'll be doing my BASI 1 through the RN plus the summer camp... add that to my own snowboarding holidays and plenty of time on the snow this year.

nickmotture - Feb 04, 2009 - 05:46 PM
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If we can have people who work for the armed forces using scuk then i think its a little hypocritical to not accept advertsing for it.

snowgirl1324 - Feb 04, 2009 - 06:10 PM
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Perhaps we should ban everyone with a job................much more 'free spirited'

Haven't read such bollox in a long time Mad

winterfunman - Feb 04, 2009 - 07:45 PM
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i agree total bolloxs , adverts are adverts and pay towards the site etc , or shall we ban all adverts and put the membership fee up , and only let members use the site ??????? hummmmmmmmmm i shall return after pondering this one for a short while ...and the fact im with a lady sailor doesnt alter my view or thoughts on this either .........althou of late kieren has seen more of her than i have........how was she today ??

Branny - Feb 04, 2009 - 08:13 PM
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haha..

my view on military advertisements is probably jaded, i spent the my 10 years of military career having to lie about my skiing ability to get a snowboarding trip.

the mob, refused to accept snowboarding as an acceptable military sport for many years, and tbh only really accept brd X, gs etc type events know..the others are for fun.

by the military paying for advertisements on a lifestyle sports site, they are implying that they support that lifestyle..which tbh the military don't

freespirt, finding yourself, doing something for yourself are not core military values. the MoD are trying to use the popular culture of snowsports to attract new recruits.

joining the military is something that should be done on the benefits of living that lifestyle, not by some false promise of someone else.

i joined the army because i wanted to travel, meet interesting people and shoot them...not because i wanted to snowboard..that became an added bonus much later..

to be fair, i don't like non industry advertising much, sometimes it's a necessary evil, but i feel (that's me branny as a person) that there's to many hangers on soul sucking corporate biatches sucking from the snowboarding nipple...go make a fast buck or find a new recruit in maxpower rather than whitelines..

yep i'm a NIMBY

Branny - Feb 04, 2009 - 08:31 PM
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oh and PS

Just because you don't agree with my opinion doesn't make it "Bollox" it just makes it different to yours.

if i went around adding "that's a load of bollox" to every thread that i didn't agree with..plus those that are a load of bollox i'd run out of bandwidth each month.

if you disagree with what i say that's cool, but constructive, intelligent, thought provoking comments & arguments will get your case across better Very Happy

dashie - Feb 04, 2009 - 08:58 PM
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I'm with Branny, join the forces because thats what you want to do, not join becuase you we're bored surfing SCUK one day and an ad popped up telling you of the exciting things the military will offer you. Offer being the key, let you do is another matter completly

kieren24 - Feb 04, 2009 - 09:18 PM
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Branny wrote:

freespirt, finding yourself, doing something for yourself are not core military values. the MoD are trying to use the popular culture of snowsports to attract new recruits.

No but physical exercise, grit, determination and overcoming adversity are core military values and seem to fit quite well...

I'm not going to argue the toss... you are entitled to your opinion but not everyone does snowboarding for freespirit and finding yourself... some people race, compete and enjoy the competition aspect.

Branny - Feb 04, 2009 - 11:23 PM
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kieran, i understand where your coming from

my comments where never meant to be, i am not anti-military in fact extremely pro, and my 10 years of service "molded" me and gave me many of the skills that my current employers value..for which i am grateful

and on this site the military and ex-military members tend to be the more dedicated and intelligent participants in activities and debate....which shows by the fact that they are the main ones with an opinion on my comments?

but....does that make it suitable advertising content for "pushing" to our youth through this medium.

or are we saying that any form of advertising is acceptable...can marlboro buy space? lots of shredders smoke, can carlsberg ...they currently have marketing on dome walls?...lots of snowboarders drink?

hey maybe i'm stuck in some ideological world with whats right and wrong quite clear, i also think "no" to sporting goods companies making gear, the fis controlling our olympic selection process is bad and a host of other over opinionated ideals.

anyways as my old training sgt used to say..stop sh1tting in your own mess tin.. ie shut up branny

peas Very Happy

reckoner - Feb 05, 2009 - 12:00 AM
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And now to reveal my geekyness to the world...

I can't tell for sure without looking at the code but from the screen shot, it seems as if the problem is caused by the banners having a higher "z-index" than the drop down box forcing them to display above.

This may or may not fix it but try adding the following in to your style sheet...

#header *{
z-index: 100 !important;
}

which will tell everything within the header to have a z-index of 100 hopefully putting it above the ads.

if that doesn't work then it will probably be because the code for the ad has something like this in it... style="z-index: 100;"

snowgirl1324 - Feb 05, 2009 - 07:45 AM
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I have no idea what you just said Huh? What?

kieren24 - Feb 05, 2009 - 10:05 AM
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my head just fell off

winterfunman - Feb 05, 2009 - 12:26 PM
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if your head just fell off are you selling your helmet too now ................saw a new post on my local news this morning about a girl who ended up with a brain problem after she fell on ice last year while snowboarding ....so best keep ya mrs helmet dude ........better safe than sorry

dunx - Feb 05, 2009 - 01:16 PM
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It's a Flash ad that sits in a layer above the HTML, so z-index has no effect. There is a tweak you can apply to the Flash itself, but I think it relies on some aspect of Flash that the ad designer may or may not choose to use. Anyway, I know Stu tried that and it didn't fix it.

We do have a policy on ads on SCUK. They need to be relevant and targeted, although that's not always possible when they're coming from Google, although that should be content driven. We certainly wouldn't include gambling sites and we exclude foreign hardware suppliers and competitors to our own insurance policy (naturally). I think we're fine with advertising the Armed Forces, but accept and appreciate your argument.

winterfunman - Feb 05, 2009 - 06:44 PM
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If they pay and it keep this amazing site going , and pays bills etc ..........keep it

Branny - Feb 05, 2009 - 06:55 PM
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dunx wrote:

but accept and appreciate your argument.

not really an argument..just an opinion, it doesn't offend me enough to make me boycott the site or anything (damn thinks dunx and everyone else..must try harder Laughing

)

a forum would be mindlessly pointless if we all agreed on all the issue..and tbh if it creates site revenue for scuk it doesn't directly hurt...and i enjoy the debate with the more intelligent members of the community...

i must be going hippy in my old age...so to get myself back on track....all you young wipper snappers need national service...and a decent haircut like dunx and me have got (nothing to do with going bald)...especially the femme looking lad who claims he's not emo.... grade 2 all over for you sonny !!! Wink

..i'm your mother now!!!

dashie - Feb 05, 2009 - 08:04 PM
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some people could do with gettin their burners up to, and a decent neck shave!

kieren24 - Feb 06, 2009 - 09:35 AM
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some people could do with gettin their burners up to

The Navy regs are different to the Army and RAF with burners... so I push the limit as much as I can, particularly in the stan or Iraq... I love seeing the RSMs getting all wound up just looking at my hair.

specialyblended - Feb 06, 2009 - 11:05 AM
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I agree with Branny - the MOD just sees participants in "Extreme" sports as an excellent source of new cannon fodder now that they are having to find new ways of recruiting. I also find it offensive that they advertise to us by comparing being in the military to participating in the ultimate extreme sport - this to my mind is an insult to my intelligence, but also an insult to the brave men and women serving in the Forces, as what they do and endure is nothing like this.

I have lots of friends in the Military, and come from a military family, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth that those who once wouldn't have crossed the road to help us are now falling over themselves to be our friends.

The American Military advertising surrounding the X-Games, and in Transworld etc is beyond a joke.

I strongly believe that such advertising has no place on this website, or in any other snowboard media.

Branny - Feb 06, 2009 - 11:34 AM
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hahah..the first thing i did when leaving was grow a huge set of diggers and a goatee...but i didn't care...I'M FREEEEEEEEE

Branny - Feb 06, 2009 - 11:37 AM
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specialyblended wrote:

well put

kieren24 - Feb 07, 2009 - 09:31 PM
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specialyblended wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion so I'm not going to debate how we differ... I just don't get the bit about crossing the road...

I would always have been friends with anyone (standfast Sidge and Tibs)... I do think it is sometimes a bit strong in some areas but the military just employs advertising agencies nowadays so they can't really be held directly responsible...