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blueshade27 - Jun 29, 2008 - 10:51 PM
Post subject: Snowboard photography.
Hello guys, need a little help with photog equipment.
Im wondering what bags the photographers amongst you use.
I like action shots and sequences but i would like to take landscapes whilst up the mountain as well.
Kit is 400d, sigma 70-300mm, sigma 24-70mm, sigma 10-20mm and a 430ex, plus you have your tripod and all your filter gubbins.
What i would like it to do is the job of the dakine helipro, but be big enough for all that equipment plus your usual day kit.
As i said just wondering what some of you guys use and maybe a little advice thanks.
lez_s - Jun 29, 2008 - 11:05 PM
Post subject: RE: Snowboard photography.
welcome to scuk 
check this thread out http://www.snowboardclub.co.uk/PNphpBB2 ... 25989.html
charliebuoy - Jun 29, 2008 - 11:28 PM
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I have a dakine sequence. Does the job for three lenses, a couple of flashes, pocket wizards and two bodies. You can attach a tripod to it with a bit of manipulation and you can stick a shovel in it too 
Tomahawk - Jun 30, 2008 - 12:12 AM
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i use a dakine mission
but im video, would work good for photo as well as the dividers are movable. i like it cos the camera bloack is removable so i can take the camera block out and use it as a reguer bag
key thing for snow is rear access so when you put it down the straps/back dont get wet in the snow.
StevieMcK - Jun 30, 2008 - 12:27 AM
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Up until now I've been riding with a Crumpler Formal Longue pack, which was useless when it came to carrying any more extra than my camera equipment (It was originally bought before I started riding, to blend in when travelling). I've got a Heli Pro pack for days that I don't take my camera, but I wouldn't dream of stashing my gear in there. One bad stack and it would be in bits as there is zero protection.
I've just managed to track down a Dakine Sequence on eBay last week (they have 2 left) and can't wait to get my hands on it. It was a choice between that and the Burton Zoom pack. The Mission looked a little too chunky for me, but I loved the external pockets on the Sequence. I took a few too many chances this season, shooting back country lines where I wasn't able to carry a shovel, probe, etc. and don't fancy repeating it next season.
Tomahawk - Jun 30, 2008 - 02:39 AM
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^ thats a sick deal.
would of got that if i had found. it cos the misison is a bit small.
jdderbys - Jun 30, 2008 - 08:31 AM
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Only time i took my 400D and two of my lens on the slope i ended up catching an edge and flipping head over feet a few times which worried me a litttle so i didnt take it out again.
charliebuoy - Jun 30, 2008 - 10:39 AM
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That's why you need a decent bag
blueshade27 - Jun 30, 2008 - 05:29 PM
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So, the dakine sequence ayyy?
Just had a look at that and it looks nice. The f-stops look nice aswell though.
Steviemck do you lug a tripod around or do you find a mono to be good enough?
And cheers for all the helpfull suggestions everyone.
charliebuoy - Jun 30, 2008 - 07:42 PM
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If you want to take sequences then you need one really.
StevieMcK - Jun 30, 2008 - 08:50 PM
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blueshade27 wrote:
Steviemck do you lug a tripod around or do you find a mono to be good enough?
In the past I carried a tripod for sequences, but tend to shot them manually now and pan with the rider. Its more work in photoshop, but the results look a lot more impressive. However I do carry a lightweight tripod or monopod if I'm intending to do anything with a remote flash and pocket wizards.
I had a look at the f-stop bags, but when it came to value for your money the Sequence (and Zoom) seemed like the better option.
charliebuoy - Jun 30, 2008 - 08:59 PM
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I've not tried sequences panning. I might have a go! 
blueshade27 - Jun 30, 2008 - 10:26 PM
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Yeah the sequence does look good vfm. And dakine build some pretty hardy stuff. Anyway, cheers for all the help.
HarryCambs - Jul 04, 2008 - 04:46 PM
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With the latest Photoshop and Photoshop elements you have photomerge really works in panoramas. It does the magic of stitching and perspective correction automatically! I have not tried with sequences but my guess is that it will actually do a good job without a tripod.
danger_mouse - Jul 04, 2008 - 06:17 PM
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i have a crumpler bag, its really comfey and can hold all my stuff easily.
took it to chamonix and had a bit of a bail and it was fine 
craikeybaby - Jul 07, 2008 - 02:39 PM
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I've got a Dakine Sequence and an F-Stop Bard (for about town etc), the F-Stop bag is much better built and they guys at F-Stop are really helpfull, it took less than a week to get here and I didn't get stung for import duty etc.
Branny - Jul 07, 2008 - 05:40 PM
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i've got the normal mission..but wish i'd got the camera specific one...does anyone know where/if i can buy the inner to convert it..or am i gonna have to buy a new bag??
HarryCambs - Jul 07, 2008 - 08:37 PM
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I have a lowe pro and a ccs camera bag, both well padded and designed for outdoors, I put them in my ruck sac. I have one of those decathlon's armoured snowboarding ruck sacs that make u look like a turtle ( http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/fr-9-back ... -24187444/ ) which just about can take my camera in the case.
blueshade27 - Jul 10, 2008 - 09:45 PM
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Hey StevieMcK.....................
You got your new bag yet? Whats it like? Any photees??
Cheers.
StevieMcK - Jul 10, 2008 - 10:38 PM
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It turn up the other day. I'll need get some shots of it over the weekend, but my initial impressions are it's money well spent. It's holding all my gear, plus there is still plenty of room for back country kit in the front pouch and some food/drink in the top pouch.
I'll stick up some shots at some point in the next few days.
blueshade27 - Jul 10, 2008 - 10:46 PM
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Nice one. Cheers mate.
philw - Jul 10, 2008 - 11:04 PM
Post subject: sequences, the bags not the photographs
I'm still using my Sequence from a couple of years ago - review here.
It's showing no signs of wear, and I've abused it pretty well. I mostly ride with a chest bag only, but this is the best I've found so far for riding. It's also great for weddings, with the rear-opening thing keeping the dirt away from your back.
I just did Bristly Ridge in the rain with the Sequence fully loaded, and everything was dry and easily accessible. These bags are made for active sports in the mountains.
Tripods? What, as light stands? I don't even use a tripod for panoramas these days... just bang away and use the software on it all later. If you do carry tripods (or light stands), then the dedicated camera-bag holders are useless, at least for beefy tripods. Check the sequence's axe holder (light stand), or the ski carry (full-size tripod).
StevieMcK - Jul 10, 2008 - 11:56 PM
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That was the very guide that persuaded me to go for the Sequence 
I never realised you were on SCUK too
charliebuoy - Jul 11, 2008 - 12:24 AM
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I have a shovel with a removable handle (like all good shovels should) and the whole thing fits perfectly in the front pocket. Like Phil mentioned I'm also using the ice axe holder for a light stand and the ski carrier thing for a largish tripod when I need them.
I reckon one of the major benefits of the sequence or zoom is that they don't look like camera bags.
HarryCambs - Jul 11, 2008 - 11:06 AM
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If you want a monopod for outdoor use that fits on your pack get a walking stick, leki does the photo series with a removable handle with a camera attachment underneath. So it is just like a monopod. They are telescopic, light weight as well and cheaper than normal monopods. They will also fit on the side straps of your rucksac.
snowangel. - Jul 11, 2008 - 12:23 PM
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i looked at the dekine, decided against its pretty much a bag inside a bag.
having experience of using this method and the amount of time it takes, i went for a burton.
Mine was given to me and it is great.
opens on the inside and has a rain/snow sheet too.
I get in it, nikon d70s, 70-200mm lense, 18-70mm lense and 8mm fisheye. I also have a small panasonic vid cam, and flash gun (sb600) and there is normally an empty space for other bits and peices. the space at the top of the bag is also very very usefull and takes plenty of stuff.
I have fallen on mine and it was ok, wasn't a big fall mind. It gets easier to ride with your camera the more you do it. I did some off piste with it last season, it took me ages and was fairly slow but after that my on piste riding improved massively.
When the bag is fully loaded with tripod too it is very heavy, once your used to the new wight distribution its get easier. People have often offerd to take my camera, and i mean good riders like Lucy Passmore who i photograph a lot, but i'd rather have it on my back, that way its my fault if it gets broke!
Tomahawk - Jul 11, 2008 - 05:43 PM
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^ yea i ahte lettign other ppl carry my stuff.
maybe ill et someone crry the tripod but not my camera.
BamBam_540 - Jul 13, 2008 - 04:23 PM
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Whoever mentioned tripods and lightstands, I can fit 3 lightstands, a tripod and umbrella on the sides of my Sequence. It's an older model but you should still be able to strap them on the new ones, I think it;s just one side pocket that's different.
Tomahawk - Jul 13, 2008 - 06:08 PM
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Branny wrote:
i've got the normal mission..but wish i'd got the camera specific one...does anyone know where/if i can buy the inner to convert it..or am i gonna have to buy a new bag??
im oreety sure you cna buy just the inner branny, its well worth it
its so useuful specially if your doing seasons i can take just the one backpack then in town or whatever i can take the camera block out and jsut use the pack if i need a day pack ro whatever and if i need more room jsut carry them separately.
blueshade27 - Jul 16, 2008 - 05:31 PM
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Looks like Dakine are releasing a newer version this season. 33L instead of 26L, a dedicated tripod strap and a rain/snow cover.
Who deals with distribution in the UK of Dakine products?
Anyone know?
craikeybaby - Jul 20, 2008 - 11:29 AM
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Now that does sound interesting, have you got a link for that?
I wonder if it something to do with there being some more competition, AFAIK the sequence hasn't changed for a few seasons now...
craikeybaby - Jul 20, 2008 - 11:52 AM
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Just checked that Dakine website, so don't need the link now...